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VL: Yeah, well, she's done a few things, but being a bass player, I guess she doesn't really get the
    champion that she should get from people because she's played with some really cool people. Just
    last  week,  she  was  up  in  London  playing  with  members  of  Dire  Straits  and  the  guy  from  the
    Pretenders was playing there with her as well. She's well-connected. She knows Norman Watt-Roy.
    Do you know Norman from Wilko’s band, and from Ian Dury? He’s really good friends with Sophie.
                                                                    In fact, I'd go as far as to say he's like a father
                                                                    to her.

                                                                    BiTS: Is she a local Plymouth lady?

                                                                    VL: Yeah, yeah, I knew Sophie way back,
                                                                    like  going  back  about  12  years  ago,  I
                                                                    suppose. Twelve, 13 years ago, and she was
                                                                    much younger then obviously, and was on
                                                                    a sort of journey to deciding what she was
                                                                    going to do. She used to come and see my
                                                                    band and I think it influenced her quite a lot
                                                                    to go off and to study music. She was already
                                                                    into playing bass and she was in a few local
                                                                    bands, and off she went. She went up and
                                                                    lived in London for something like 12 years.
                                                                    She’s travelled around quite a lot, but she
                                                                    was based in London, and she had several
                                                                    bands that she was working in as well as
                                                                    function bands and stuff like that. So she can
                                                                    play pretty much anything you throw at her.
                                                                    She's played in so many function bands, she
                                                                    would look at a set list and just go, yeah, I
                                                                    know all those.

                                                                    BiTS: I gather she swapped from electric
                                                                    bass to the stand-up recently.

                                                                    VL: That's right. Well, yes, I've always been
    trying to edge her that way, but she was living in a really tiny spot up in London, like a little tiny
    room, and she didn't have room for it. Then right near the end, before she moved back to Plymouth,
    she said I've found the solution and she had gone on marketplace, and someone was selling, we call
    it the Franken-bass. It’s like a metal frame that somebody's attached to an old double bass neck and
    made this crazy electric double bass out of it. It was not so big that she could actually get it in her
    room and play it. So she was up there learning how to play on this thing.

    BiTS: Presumably that's how you managed to get out into the country to do the recording for this
    new album?

    VL: Well, no because when we do these things in the recordings, we’ve got a van. We stick the double
    bass in the van and drive off and find some nice spots out in the countryside. We make videos for
    them.

    BiTS: Now the new album is called “Out In The Sticks”? (On Bandcamp, Ed)

    VL: “Out In The Sticks”, yeah. Because most of the songs are recorded out in the open.

    BiTS: Well, tell me where you went to make the recordings then. Are you able to do that?
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