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to cringe a little bit. [Chuckles] It gets worse and worse the more you sit there and
    listen to it.

    BiTS:  What happened next? When did you move on?


    AD:  That one stopped actually, weirdly enough just before COVID. So we were going
    for about a year and a half, maybe. Maybe a little bit more. We didn't really do much
    because, we were all in sixth form and all of us were a bit busy. Then I went off to

    uni, literally 2020. So COVID year, and that was kind of when I started to branch out
                                                             in terms of musicianship. So I'd always
                                                             had  an  interest  in  playing  other  things

                                                             and  doing  other  forms  of  music  and
                                                             things.  I'd  done  musical  theatre  pits
                                                             before. I was in music school as a kid, so

                                                             I got a lot of exposure to a lot of things,
                                                             even if I didn't quite understand it. And
                                                             then  at  uni,  I  became  a  regular  on  the

                                                             student theatre scene as a sort of brought
                                                             in session player and then I was invited
                                                             to join some of the big bands from some

                                                             of the people I met on that circuit and that
                                                             was kind of where I then branched out
                                                             into really kind of hammering home my

                                                             technique, my musicality. Thinking about
                                                             what I was playing rather than just going
    with a wiggle, [chuckles] if that makes sense.


    BiTS:  Yeah, absolutely. What sort of guitar did you have at that stage?

    AD:  At that stage, so I probably shouldn't admit this, but my first student loan, my

    first year of uni, the second term got completely cancelled because of COVID, and so
    what I did is I used that money to buy my first Les Paul [laughs]. What else are you
    going to do with two grand which is just sat there in your account?


    So I was playing a Les Paul. My first guitar that I bought myself was a Fender Strat,
    so that one was kind of on the regular circuit. And then I’d also picked up an Epiphone
    ES-339 Dot. I don't know if you've ever been down South, you might have heard of
    Madison’s  Guitar  Shop,  which  sadly  has  closed  down  now,  but  they  did  a  part

    exchange for me on an amp that I handed in and I saw that as my jazz guitar, purely
    because it was a semi-hollow. It wasn't beautiful in the slightest, but I would go with

    that's what we're using it for and that was kind of what I was taking up and down
    all these gigs. I think I took it to The Fringe and back. That was one of those guitars,
    it's not that I regret selling it, but it's one where I'm thinking, that was a cool moment
    in time.


    BiTS:  Are you a guitar collector? Do you have dozens of them?
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