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one way, there will be a formative   of the results and you see people   political management – and that
                 stage and I think it’s important not to   progressing and changing direction –   doesn’t suit everyone. I’m very keen on
                 be too defensive. There’s a phase of   that’s when you see the rewards.   career paths that don’t force everyone
                 acceptance, followed by an       What do you love about your job?  into being a manager. There is
                 understanding of what things you can   Definitely the people. I get to see the   sometimes an expectation that
                 tolerate and what you can’t tolerate.   people I work with develop and grow   management is where you move to and,
                                                  and realise their potential. If you can   if you don’t make it, then you just stop
                 What does an average day look    help someone who has been doubting   on the chain and never go any further.
                 like for you?                    themselves and then see them
                 I get up and do about 40 minutes of   succeed; that’s brilliant. I like shaping   I’m sure men never get asked this
                 back exercises and then I wake my   things, I like changing things. I always   question, but do you find it easy to
                 daughter up, get us both some    say to people, don’t give me a   juggle your work and your home life?
                 breakfast and get us both out of the   handle-turning job. I will change it and   It changes all the time. When the kids
                 house. I try to check the day before   it could be disruptive if that thing is   were little it was very regimented
                 what meetings I have the next day and   actually working in the first place.   and I had to leave the office on time
                 what is coming up, but I’ll do another                            to get the kids from nursery (I was
                 quick check in the morning. This tends   You’d redesign the handle?  always late). I could always do the
                 to be when I get a bit of time to do   Yes, I’m good with stuff that doesn’t   balancing, the main thing to deal with
                 things and do some thinking. After   work and needs fixing.       is the guilt; the thought that you’re
                 that, my schedule tends to be fairly                              not doing a good job as a mother and
                 back-to-back with various meetings,   Do you have any advice for people   you’re not doing a good job at work,
                 sessions, management things, one-to-  who are looking to move from   because you are always compromised
                 ones, mentoring, steering groups,   engineering into management? Did   by the other thing. You have to get
                 leadership groups. The days tend to   you have to take an MBA?    over that, because you can make that
                 be quite varied, but fairly packed.   I didn’t. I signed up for one because   a reality, whereas if you have happy
                 Then, by 5pm, I have time again for   the company would have paid for it,   parents you have happy children. If
                 reflection and thinking about what   but then I remembered that when I   going to work gives you purpose and
                 needs to be done for the rest of the   finished my engineering course I   driving value is what makes you
                 week. Then I go home and make    vowed not to take anymore exams. I   happy, then that’s what you should
                 dinner, if my husband has not already   thought to myself, what am I really   be doing to make your children
                 done so as we share the household   getting out of this? It felt like I was   happy. Then all you have to do is
                 chores between us.               just doing it to get a badge, rather   balance the practicalities.
                                                  than because I had any real passion
                 It sounds like a lot of people are   for it. As it turned out, I had my first   I hear about ‘the guilt’ from the
                 taking bits from you. Do you ever   child, which would have been right in   women I work with all the time,
                 have times when you need to sit   the middle of doing it, so timing-wise   but I never hear it from my male
                 quietly and just get something done?  it would have been quite difficult. To   colleagues.
                 Yes, it becomes quite difficult. I tend   date, I‘ve not needed it, but this is   No, but I think there are a lot more
                 to block time out – I put it in as a   without testing the outside market   men now who have to balance their
                 secret meeting.                  where people need things on paper to   home lives and that are a lot more
                                                  get an interview and get a foot in the   involved in childcare. Society expects it
                 A meeting with yourself?         door and be credible. I believe I have   a lot more from men these days and I
                 Yes, I just try and steal the time! I call   learned as much as I would learn on   think it’s helped to have more balanced
                 it planning and strategy. But the   any MBA in the practical application   rights in terms of parental leave.
                 majority of my role is about     of change and managing people,
                 leadership, making decisions, shaping   managing different business situations,  Why would you say it’s
                 things, trying to help others. I deliver   moving a business from working in   important for women to pursue
                 through other people now, which can   one way to working in another way. If   engineering careers?
                 be a difficult thing to move into.   you want to work in a managerial role   I think women do think differently.
                 Sometimes it makes you question   you need to be sure that it’s for you.   Men and women are different and
                 yourself and your self-worth. When   You do spend a lot of time not doing   there’s no point in trying to pretend
                 you’re not the one doing ‘the doing’   ‘the doing’; you’re influencing others,   that we are exactly the same. Women
                 you wonder, am I actually adding   providing them with space, giving   will come at a problem in a different
                 value? But then when you see some   them air cover, dealing with more   way and that’s why diversity is
                                                                                   important. And it’s not just women
                                                                                   and men; it can be different
                      Men and women are different and                              backgrounds, different upbringings,
                                                                                   different beliefs. You’ll get a much
                      there’s no point in trying to pretend that  better, more rounded solution if
                      we are exactly the same. Women will                          you’ve got a diversity of thinking.
                                                                                   Engineering is fundamental to
                      come at a problem in a different way                         everything we do and the way the
                      and that’s why diversity is important                        world is going. The people that
                                                                                   benefit from engineering are from all






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