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          influence other companies to improve their work conditions.  MW  At  GAF7,  I  urged  gender  in  aquaculture  and  fisheries
          Large, leading companies can be particularly helpful.   researchers to raise their sights and look at the bigger picture
                                                              – the larger intertwined economic and political forces that
          The  most  critical  action,  however,  is  one  that  is  resisted   govern the sector. We are too focused on looking at women’s
          strongly. This is for governments and businesses to enable   small  scale  problems  and  solutions,  mainly  from  a  social
          true  collective  action,  such  as  workers’  unions,  fishers’   perspective. We need to learn from feminist economic research
          and  women’s  collectives.  These  are  not  the  same  as   in other sectors; learn from previous political economy work
          company-run  staff  committees  with  limited  independence.   on women and fisheries, e.g., during the Canadian cod crisis
          Unfortunately,  the  union  movement  has  been  demonized   and transitions in Kerala fisheries; and we need to present,
          and heavily suppressed in recent decades, to the detriment of     in leading fisheries forums, the case for protecting women’s
          social equity.                                      livelihoods and creating more opportunities for them. These

                                                              are not easy steps. Most fisheries and aquaculture forums
                                                              resist  putting  gender  on  their  agendas  and  some  of  my
                                                              colleagues have even experienced a backlash.

                                                              To  deliver  on  this  political  economy  agenda,  we  need  to
                                                              reorient our research agendas to be more outward looking,
                                                              translate more of the research results into actionable policy
                                                              options, and speak out, putting the options in front of decision
                                                              makers.

                                                              For GAF8, I hope for more studies on gender and the political
                                                              economy  of  fisheries,  and  more  action  on  putting  gender
                                                              equality perspectives into fisheries and aquaculture forums.
                                       Credit: Sarah Castine, WorldFish  I  know  already  that  several  colleagues  are  working  in  this
          Mapping exercise in Jhalokhati, Bangladesh.
                                                              direction, and so I am sure we will see the results at GAF8.
          The UN estimates that by 2050, the global population will
          exceed 9 billion, increasing the pressure on food sectors to   Women  are  still  over-represented  in  lowly  paid  positions
          maximise  production  and  reduce  waste.  In  your  opinion,   throughout  the  world.    What  are  some  extra  challenges
          can fisheries and aquaculture keep pace with the growth in   specific to the Asia Pacific, perhaps cultural and religious,
          population, and at the same time, be increasingly accessible   which are holding back the equitable recognition of women?
          and affordable to all?                              Presumably advocacy efforts in say, Australia, would need
                                                              to be adapted to achieve the same impact in Malaysia or
          Yes,  if  the  right  species  are  grown  and  harvested  and   Thailand?
       MW
          aquaculture becomes more efficient. This means much less
          emphasis in aquaculture on growing carnivores and luxury   MW  Yes, cultural and religious differences certainly matter, but the
          species like shrimp; and more in fisheries of small pelagics   economy often trumps these and some basic and universal
          for  direct  human  consumption.  I  am  reasonably  confident   factors are more important.
          that  sustainable  replacements  for  fishmeal  are  going  to   Some problems with “equitable recognition” are basic and
          be  developed,  judging  by  the  promising  options  under   universal in fisheries. A universal problem is that women are
          development.                                        not seen and considered. On International Women’s Day, the
          And now, moving on to issues concerning women in fisheries.   SEAFDEC-USAID  Oceans  and  Fisheries  Partnership  referred
          At  the  7th  Global  Conference  on  Gender  in  Aquaculture   to the “Hidden Half,” and the International Association for
          and  Fisheries  (GAF7)  in  2018,  you  presented  an  article   Women in the Seafood Industry (WSI) coined the term “IIU” –
          “From  Catch  to  Consumer:  Why  Gender  Equality  Matters   Ignored, Invisible and Unrecognised.
          in Aquaculture and Fisheries” in which you highlighted the   Women’s  work  is  not  counted  in  many  industry  statistics,
          key actions that would lead to real progress towards gender   e.g., in post harvest or even production; not considered a real
          equality.  Could  you  summarise  the  points  in  that  article?   part of the industry, e.g., gleaning; not included in fisheries
          What do you hope to see happen by the time GAF8 rolls   and  aquaculture  policies,  e.g.,  the  Code  of  Conduct  for
          around next year?                                   Responsible Fisheries; often is unpaid; and the workers are




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