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               The practice of rejoicing is important if we have low   be in that state of mind all of the time. What has helped
               self-esteem and are prone to negative self-criticism.   me in meditation, but took me a long time to figure out,
               When we do something beneficial or compassionate or   is this: when thoughts or feelings arise that are very
               virtuous, we should rejoice in our activity so that we   strong or very unpleasant I say to myself in my mind
               value ourselves. We don’t have to become inflated about   “It’s ok. It’s ok that you are there.” I find that giving the
               it, but we can honestly acknowledge it to ourselves and   thoughts and feelings genuine permission to be there
               appreciate it. This helps motivate us to continue in our   makes them quiet very quickly. It sounds so simple, but
               spiritual path. For example, I rejoice in your taking the   for me it’s been very powerful. And like I said, it took
               time to read this interview! You could be doing so many   me a long time to figure this out and I’m definitely still
               other things right now and you are reading something   working on it!
               in the hopes of developing your mind. This is something
               to really appreciate.                              Buddhist practices teach us to cultivate love
                                                                  and compassion. But first we need to cultivate

               If your apparent humility is really a cover for an   compassion for ourselves since it is associated with
               inferiority complex, you need to build your self-esteem   both our emotional resilience and psychological
               to a healthier level. This is where psychotherapy can   well-being. What’s your method to cultivate self-
               be very helpful. In psychotherapy, with a therapist you   compassion?
               feel comfortable with, you can explore the origin of why
               you feel so negatively about yourself and why it is hard   Self-compassion can be very hard, can’t it? It’s amazing
               to acknowledge your basic goodness. Maybe there are   how much easier it can be to direct compassion towards
               experiences you have had in your life with other people   others rather than ourselves. And Buddhism is a path
               that left you coming to a conclusion about yourself that   that sets very high standards that we are trying to
               you are carrying around but are not fully aware of. By   reach - we are working towards enlightenment after all!
               lifting unconscious beliefs to the level of our conscious   I think the biggest way that I cultivate self-compassion
               mind, which is what happens in therapy, you can start to   is to try to understand my own suffering when it arises.
               challenge them and change how you feel about yourself.   Compassion is the wish that suffering be alleviated. So
               And it’s also extremely important to make sure you are   first I have to acknowledge that I’m suffering in some
               cultivating healthy relationships with people who help   way. I might try to look at my situation as though I’m on
               you feel loved and cared for for who you are.      the outside of it and think about how I would react to it
                                                                  happening to someone else. I also talk with loved ones
               When we have developed a balanced mind, we         and receive their compassion, which gives me a model
               should be able to experience calmness and peace    of how to direct it to myself. And I really try to notice
               in our lives. But we can also be attached to our   when I’m being too hard on myself.
               calmness. What’s your advice how not to cling to our
               calmness, especially during meditation?            Personally, I find the Buddhist notion of aspiration

                                                                  to be very comforting. Buddhism is a path of self-
               Remember that you are a human being and we are in   development that is continually unfolding. We don’t
               saṃsāra. We are not Buddhas yet! Painful emotions are   have all of the qualities yet that we want to acquire,
               definitely going to arise and disrupt our calmness. We   but we aspire to develop them. Aspiration as a concept
               have to accept that until we are enlightened, we will   makes space for us to be imperfect, because if we were
               absolutely experience this. Our job is not to be perfect,   fully enlightened we wouldn’t need aspiration! And
               but to be in an ongoing process of developing agility and   just the fact that we want to develop these qualities
               flexibility in our minds. Psychotherapists refer to this   is virtuous, and says something wonderful about us.
               as emotional regulation. We have our emotions, even   There’s something about this concept that just helps me
               strong ones, but they arise and pass through. Of course   let go.  EH
               calmness feels so much better, so we would prefer to
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