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Section 1692b:  Acquisition of Location Information
                  When speaking with a third-party in attempting to locate a new address or POE for the
                  consumer you should state that you are only attempting to locate a new address (or POE if
                  the consumer is no longer employed there) for the consumer.  Only if you are expressly asked
                  should you reveal the name of your employer, and again, you are simply attempting to locate
                  a new address and not for the purpose of repossession.  If the recovery agent knows that
                  the consumer is represented by an attorney he should immediately cease repossession
                  efforts and advise the creditor.  Misrepresentation, deceiving (pre-texting) in order to
                  acquire information is a violation of this Section.

                  Example of repossession case law:  In Madden v. Deere Credit Services the Court stated,
                  in part, “A Breach of the Peace is a disturbance of the public tranquility, by any act or conduct
                  inciting to disturb the public order.”  Misrepresentation, deceiving (pre-texting) or divulging
                  personal information about the debtor would be considered an act of conduct that violates the
                  public conscience (order).

                  Section 1692c: Communication in Connection with Debt Collection
                  The recovery agent should not attempt to contact the consumer at a time or place that is
                  considered to be inconvenient to the consumer.  An example would be if the consumer works
                  a midnight shift at their POE it would be reasonable to assume that they would be sleeping
                  during the morning hours and continuously knocking on the consumer’s door or continuously
                  ringing the doorbell during this time may very well be considered harassment.  Also, if the
                  recovery agent knows that the consumer’s employer does not allow communication with
                  employees while on duty the recovery agent should not attempt to make such contact.  And
                  again, if the recovery agent is aware that the consumer has hired a lawyer to intervene
                  regarding the debt the recovery agent should abandon the repossession attempt and
                  notify the creditor immediately.  In such situations and other situations where the consumer
                  has displayed verbal threats the creditor may note in the repossession order, NO CONTACT.

                  Example of repossession case law:  Again, we can cite Madden v. Deere Credit Services
                  as a violation of public order and conscience when contacting debtors (or third parties) at
                  unreasonable times or at the inconvenience of the debtor.


                  Section 1692d: Harassment or Abuse
                  A recovery agent may not engage in any conduct which would be considered to harass,
                  oppress, or abuse the consumer or a third-party in an attempt to repossess collateral.  The
                  following conduct is a violation of this Section:

                  (1).  The use of threat or use of violence or other criminal means to harm the consumer or a
                          third-party in the attempt to repossess collateral.
                  (2).  The use of obscene or profane language or language the natural consequence of which
                          is to abuse the consumer or a third-party in an attempt to repossess collateral.







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