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All   members    have   the   same
                                                                                       rights.   It  is  amazing   when   we
                                                                                       go  to  some   countries   where   the
                                                                                       social   security   system   is  weak
                                                                                       or  where   pension   schemes   do
                                                                                       not   exist,   people   look   at  us  in
                                                                                       disbelief    because   they   do  not
                                                                                       believe   that   we   w'll   be  able   to
                                                                                      pay   them   a  pension.   Tahis  is  so
                                                                                      unusual   because   they   do  not
                                                                                      understand   the  mechanism    -
                                                                                      contributions,    the   inveshnent
                                                                                      of   the  contributions,    the  pay-
                                                                                      ments,    etc.   It  is   a reflection

                                                                                      sometimes    of   the   little   faith
                                                                                      they   have   in  collective    arrange-
                                                                                      ments.   I  think   that   when   these
                                                                                      collective    arrangements    are
                                                                                      properly   managed   and  super-
                                                                                      vised,   this   is  a  wonderful    tool
                                                                                      in   addition    to   other   human
                                                                                      resource     policies     and
                                                                                      entitlements.

                                                                                      Q:   You   have   an   exeellent
                                                                                      teputation    all  ovei'   t}ie   work}
                                                                                      and   peo)ile   are   sa(isfied   with
                                                                                      tlie   services    you   provide.
                                                                                      Wliat   inore   can   you   ask   t'or?

                                                                                      My   dream   would   be  for   more
                                                                                      people   to  benefit  from   this   kind
                                                                                      of   coverage,   because   it's  clear

                                                                                      that  life  expectancy   is rising
                                                                                      and,  withorit   proper   coverage
                                  Nations,     for    more    peace-  believe    that   the   discussions
                                                                                      of  old   age,  a  lot   of  people   out-
                                  keeping   inissions,   for   instance,  have   not  been   as  far   reaching
                                                                                      side   the   {JN   are  going   to  expe-

                                  and    the    UN    family     of  as they   would    like   tliem   to
                                                                                      rience   problems     down   the
                                  organizahons    is  responding.    So  have   been.  I  believe   tliat   most
                                                                                      road.   I  tend   to  believe   that  a
                                  the  number   of   einployees    is  people   are   quite    comfoitable
                                                                                      pension   scheme   is  not   a  luxury.
                                  mcreasing.    Also,    as   of    l  witli   tlie  present   sitiiation:   the
                                                                                      It  is  a  way   for   individuals    and
                                  Jaiuiaiy   2007,   we  liave   a  new  Pension   Fund   is  well   funded;
                                                                                      groups   to  plan   for   the  future,
                                  member,     IOM-tlie       the  govemance    fiuictions    are  in
                                                                                      especially    for   a  time   when   they
                                  Intemational    Organization    for  place   and  work   well;   manage-
                                                                                      would    no   longer   be   able   to
                                  Mig,ation.                 ment   is  coinmitted    to  quality,
                                                                                      woi'k   or  rely   on  the  family   to
                                                             timely   deliveiy    of  sei'vices   and
                                                                                      provide     for    their    needs.
                                  It  is  a  g+'owing   busiiiess.   As  a  on-going   improvement    of   tlie
                                                                                      Pension    funds   with    all   their
                                  fully-fianded     pension     fund  way   it  works.   Intemal   control
                                                                                      skills,   and   mechanisms    and
                                  (contrary    to    other   pension  mechanisms    are  efficient   and
                                                                                      long   term   reserves,    are   an
                                  schemes   wliicli   are  managed   in  with   a  newly   established   audit
                                                                                      excellent     answer    to    these
                                  a  different    inanner,   such   as  coininittee,    aii  additional    layer
                                                                                      issues.
                                  pay-as-you-go-the    contribu-  of   supervision    and  control   has
                                  tions   pay   for   tlie   pensions),   we  just    been   added.    This   audit

                                                                                      Q:   So   it'  a cotintry    iieeded
                                  liave    reserves.   Even   if  tl'iere  committee    is  a  new   organ
                                                                                      some   advice,   ivould   yoti   give
                                  were   a  decrease   iii   the  number  establislied     by   the   Pension
                                                                                      it  to  them?
                                  of   participants    in  the  years   to  Board;   it  comes   on  top  of   the
                                  come,   the  Pension   %nd   would  nonn'ial    intenial     control
                                                                                      Of   course!    We  do  that  from
                                  not   be  at  risk.       meclianisms    cai'ried   orit   by
                                                                                      time   to  time.   Lots   ofpeople    are
                                                            management,    the  iiitemal   audit
                                                                                      interested    in   knowing    how


                                  Q:  So peolile s}iould  not  be  and   the   extemal    ariditors.    I
                                                                                      these   tools   can   be  made   availa-
                                  wori'ied    at  all'?     believe   that   tliis   is  reassui'ing
                                                                                      ble  to  otliers.   It  is  a  complex
                                                            for   people.
                                                                                      operahon   aiid   it  reqriires   a  lot
                                  When   it  comes   to  that,   ceitain-
                                                                                      of   discipline.    I  worild   also  say

                                  ly  not!  However,   I  tl'iii*   it  is  Q:   Do  the  new  NOTh4 meni-
                                                                                      that   it  requires   sh'ong   etlffcs.
                                  veiy   healthy   for   the  member-  bcrs   }iave   tlie   sanie   riglits   as
                                  slffp  to   ask  qriestions   and  to  tJie    ot}iers,     even    tlieii'
                                  express   conceni    when   tliey  t'etirees?
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