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retirees   and  beneficiai'ies.    We  improve   tlie   way   we   manage  ruiderstandiitg    of  the  risks   invol-  portfolio,    tlie  bond   pottfolio
              liave   to  make   sire   tliat   the   per-  tlie    Pensioi'i     Fund.  ved,   and  also  the  costs   iiivolved  and  tlie  real-estate   poitfolio.
              foi'i'nance    acliieved    by   tlie  Outsourcing    is   one   of  tl'ie  in  clia+iging   tlie   investment    poli-  The   bulk   of  orir   iiivesh'nents    is
              assets  matcl'ies   oir   long-tenn  many   possible   options.   It  lias  cy.   Basically,    the   discussions  oritside   tlie   US.   Invesh'nent
              liabilities.    So  far,  so  good!   In  been  implemented    in  several  were   on  these   issues.   Many   peo-  advisers   liave   been   appointed
              otl'ier   words,   this   Pension  areas  of   tlie  Fund.   We  liave  ple   were   rmcomfoitable    because  to   assist   the   Fruid's    asset
              Fruid   enjoys   a  sru'plus,   wl'iicli  beei'i   worlciiig    for   many   years  tliey   felt   that   tlie   discrissions  mai'iagers   iit  tl'ieir   iiiveshnent
              means   that   if  orir   demograpliic  witli   outside   companies    for  focused   mainly   on  tlie   tool   and  decisions     in    tlie    various
              and   economic    assumptions  actiiai'ial   valuations,    IT   opera-  not   enough   on  tlie  risk   profile,  regions     of   tlie   world,     in
              are   coi'rect    (and   we   cl'ieck  tions   as  well   as  for   tlie   invest-  risk   appetite,   or  on  tlie   asset-lia-  equities,   bonds,   real   estate,
              them   every   two   years   throrigli  ment   of  tlie   ASSETSof  tl'ie  Fund.  bility   i'nanagement,    for   wlffch   a  emerging   markets,   cru'rei'icies

              aii  actuai'ial   valuation    wlffcli   is  For   exainple,the    management  study   is  cui'rently   being   can'ied  etc.

              cai'iied   out   by   an  extemal  tlmd  of   tlie   small   CAa'S (ii'ivest-  orit.    Tliese    documents     and
              paity),   then   we   can   safely   say  ment   in   small    companies)  repoits   will   be  presented   to  tlie  The   Fund's   asset   managers
              tliat   we  will   be  able   to  meet  categoiy   of   assets  is  already  Pension   Board   iii   July   2007.  are  selected   tluorigli   the  com-
              orir  promises    and  cover   our  outsourced,    simply   becarise   it  petitive   UN   reciuitment    pro-
              long-tenn    coi'i'unih'nents.    So  would   be  veiy   difficult    for   tl'ie  Tlie   paiticipants'    representatives,  cess;  all  posts   are  adveitised
              far,   the   UN   Pension   Fruid   is  in  Pension   Fund   to  rely   solely   on  and    tlie    retirees,     expressed  on  tlte  {JN   website.   Providers
              a  strongly   funded   position.  its  own   iifforination    or  staff  to  concem    about    dianges    iii   tlie  aiid  iiiveshnent    advisors   are
                                      invest    in   si'iiall    companies  iiwestinentpolicy.    Of  cotirse,   tlffis  selected    tlirougli    a  similar
              Q:  So  you   have   beaten   the  around   tlie   world.  is  iiripoitant    for   many   of  them,   as  competitive    process   ma+iaged
              market    several   times?                     tlieir   ctu'rei'it   and   future   pensions  by    tlie    UN    procurement
                                      Your   question   refers   to  discus-  are  or   will   be  tlieir   only   source   of  sei'vice.
              Tlie   Fund's   asset   managers  sions   tliat    l'iappened    in   the  revetuie.
              liave   an  excellent   track   record  Pension   Board   a  year   ago.  At  Q:  Do  the   people   working
              and  liave   consistently    beaten  tliat   tiine,   oritsoirciiig    of   tl'ie  I  am   vei'y   pleased    when   orir  on   the   Asian    market,    for
              tlieir   aggregate   marlcet   bencli-  North   Ai'nei'ican   Equity   poit-  constituents    give    tlieir   pension  instance,    follow    the   working
              mark.   hi   fact,   for   the  Pension  folio   was   presented    to   our  fimd   tlffs   level   of  attention.   Tliey  hours    of  the  Tokyo    Stock
              Fund   tlie   key   objective    is  to  govenffng    body   composed   of  are  risually   veiy    supportive    of  Exchange?
              aclffeve   a  peifonnance    wlffcli  representatives     of   all    our  proposed   changes   in  favour   of
              meets   its   rehu'n   objectives.  Member    Organizations,    inclu-  modemization,    and   tliey   feel   tliat  Tlie   Fru'id's   managers   are  all
              Basically,    the   objectives    iii  ding   staff  and   retirees.  tliey   own   tlie   Pension   Fund.   Tlus  here   iii   New   York.   Of   coru'se,
              non'iinal   tei'ins   are  to  aclffeve   a    feeliiig   of  ownersliip    is  great   and  they   h'avel,   but  a  lot  can  be
              7.5%    rate   of   retiu'n   on   an  The   Pension   Board   eventually  tliey   are  prorid   of  the  peifoi'irian-  done    fi'o+n    New    Yoi'k.
              annual   basis,   and   in  real   tenns  decided   to  outsorirce   this   par-  ces  acliieved  rip  to  now.   I  mentio-  Second,   tliis   is  a pension   fiind,
              3.5%.   Over   tlie  last  foity-six  ticular   poitfolio    and  to  liave   it  ned  earlier   tliat   tliis   is  a  strongly  so  daily   trading   is  not   a  core
              years,   the  fund   has-on    an  managed   iii   tlie   passive   mode.  funded   pension   fund;   tlffs   is  due  activity.   Most   of  tlie   assets   are
              average   aiuuial   basis-peifor-  In  otlier   words,   it  decided   not  to   good   and  pi'iident    manage-  long   tenn.
              med   above   tlffs   objective.  to   tiy   "to    beat  tlie   market"  ment   and   good   govei'+iance.   Tliis

                                      tlu'ougli    active   management,  is a rarity   in  tliis   world   wliere  Q:   What    do   you   think    about

              Q:  There   have   been   qtiite   a  but  basically   to  replicate   tlie  many   pension   fimds   sh'iiggle   to  your   job   of  managing    the
              lot   of  worries    ainong   tlie  1JN  market   indexes   in  tliis   US   and  stay   afloat.   Participants    want   the  Pension   Fund?
              staff   about   t}ieir   pensions.    Is  Canadian    eqriity   poitfolio.  '[JN   Pension   Fuid   to  be  able   to
              the  Pension   Ftind   going   to  Many   people   liad   no  problem  continue   to  meet   its  pension   obli-  When   I  was  selected   for   tlie
              be  outsourced    or  is  it  going  witl'i   tlie   passive   or  indexii'ig  gations   of   tlie  fiitiire.   Tliere   are,  job,   and  appointed    as  CEO,   it
              to  stay  tlie  waft   it  is? Could  approach.   Indexation    is  a  tool;  therefore,   lots  of   reasons   for   our  was   becarise   tliis   was  already

              yori   clarit:i    wliat   is  going   on?  and  it  is  a  fact   tliat   in  those  constituency    to  keep   an  eye  on  my   area  of   specialization    -
              Is  there   son'ietliing    to  woriay  transparent   and  efficient   mar-  wliat   is  happening    to  tlie   Pension  managing    pension    fimds   iii
              about?                  kets,   wlien   managers   actively  Frind.     France.   Wbat   is  new   about   it
                                      manage   a  poitfolio-and    stii-              is  tlie  intemational    nature   of
              What   is  clear   is  tliat   managing  dies  iltustrate   tlffis  point   very  Q:  You  said   earher   that   you  tliis   activity.   The   tecl'u'iiques,
              a  Pension   Fund   is  a  complex  well-it    is  difficult    for   tliem   to  had    a  Governing    Board   and  wlien   it   comes   to   actuarial
              activity   reqriiriiig    a  lot   of  pro-  consistently    aclffeve   a  better  160    people    working     here    in  matters,   iiivesti'nents,    IT,  are
              fessional    knowledge-not  peifoi'inance    than   tlie  market  New   York.   How   do  you   select  all  tlie   same.
              only   iii  tenns   of   administ'a-  index.   your    people    -    are   they    all
              tive   skills,   managing    conh'ibu-         investment    bankers?   Q:  Where   do  you  siant   to
              tions,   calculatiiig    and  payiiig  Tlie   discussion    basically    focu-  see  tlie   Pension    Ftind    ten
              pensions,   but   also  an  in-depth  sed  on  tlie   question   of   sh'ate-  Tlie   Fund   lias  a  limited   munber  years   from   now?
              laiowledge    of   actiiai'ial   mat-  gy.   Is   the   strategy   only    to  of  asset   managers,   brit   oit   gover-
              ters,   iiweshnent     matters,   IT  rep[icate   an  iiidex   or  is  tliere  ning   bodies-tlie    Pension   Board  Obviorisly,    tlie  Pensio+i   Fund
              processes   and   things   like   tliat.  more   to   it?   Many   people  and  tlie   United   Nations   General  will    be   larger,   not   only    in

              For   us,  tlie   key   question   is  to  believe   a more   compreliensive  Assembly,    our   legislative    body   -  tenns   of   ASSETS but   also   in
              make    sure    tliat    all    tliis  assessment    of   tl'ie   pros   and  liave   agreed    to   strengtl'ien    tliis  terms    of    membersliip.
              la'iowledge    is  available   wlien  cons   sliould    be   presented.  small   team   of  liighly   skilled   pro-  Basically,   tlie  {JN   is  expan-
              we   need   it.  From   tiine   to  time,  Managing     a   portfolio  fessionals   wlio   liave   tlie   respon-  ding.   Tliere   is  a  great   demand
              we   need   extemal   resorirces   to  obviorisly    reqriires    a  clear  sibility   of   managiiig    tlie  equity  addressed     to    tlie    United

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