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                  each other. The thing that makes us
                  human is our compassion and the fact   GINA’S ADVICE FOR GETTING TO THE TOP
                  that we are able to stand up and fight
                  and that’s what I’m going to do. I’m not    Work harder than everyone   “You’re there to do your job and if
                  going to lose my humanity.        else. “You have to do more than   you have to be a bitch then just do
                                                    your colleagues are going to do,   it. You have your friends and family.
                  What would have happened if you   you need to know your stuff inside   It’s something a lot of women and in
                  hadn’t taken on the Government over   out and you need to be able to be   particular young girls worry about.”
                  Article 50?                       cleverer than the next person in
                                                                                   Success doesn’t come easy.
                  I’m of the opinion the Government   the room.”                  “The only reason I’m successful is
                  would have triggered Article 50,    Presence is really important.   because I failed so many times but
                  which would have been illegal, and   “Think about how you occupy your   I picked myself up and carried on.
                  constitutionally with the European   space.  Don’t knock on a door and   And every time I failed I examined
                  Union we could have been in all sorts   say ‘sorry’, don’t hang your head   why I failed and I learnt from it so
                  of problems because Article 50 says   when you go into a room. Stand tall   I’m only successful because I failed
                  very clearly ‘along the lines of your   and proud, own who you are, and   so many times and most successful
                  constitutional requirements’ and we   really radiate confidence because   people would’ve told me that.”
                  would not have done it. So we would’ve   people pick that up even before you
                  done an illegal trigger… the ramifications   speak. You have a right to be in that    Don’t be afraid to take risks.
                  for that are almost unbearable. The   meeting, you’ve got through that   “If you don’t dive in and take a risk
                                                                                  you’ll never discover what you’re
                                                    that interview process, you’re not
                  whole time [during the referendum] the   any less than anyone else and you   capable of.  It’s a journey of taking
                  Leave campaign had been talking about   have to be confident in that.”  that risk that will teach you a lot.
                  parliamentary sovereignty, that was the                         Not just the outcome of actually
                  thing they were going to sidestep. But I    You’re not at work to be liked.   getting there.”
                  don’t think they thought anyone would
                  challenge them. The Government’s case
                  was so weak – when they appealed, I
                  think they were using me. What they                             the community and saving people’s
                  did was, they had no plan, they used the                        lives every single day, we’ll take them
                  case to kick the can down the road and                          on board and incubate them. At any
                  give them time to come up with a plan.                          one time we have 12 to 14 charities or
                  So I did them a favour in lots of ways,                         projects we work with and we will take
                  but I also became the butt of a lot of                          them through that process, typically
                  the abuse.                                                      three to five years, and then they
                                                                                  graduate away from us. I underwrite all
                  How do you feel about Brexit right                              the costs of the Foundation so it doesn’t
                  now? As a Remainer do you think it                              depend on donors and I have something
                  can be undone? Can we turn back                                 called the ‘goodwill exchange’ where
                  the clock?                                                      147 people volunteer in their area of
                  No, I’m democratic. I do believe we have                        expertise, so if we need an architect,
                  to follow the process. Now what we                              website designer whatever, they’ll help
                  have to do is concentrate on getting the                        us to help those charities. I meet the true
                  best possible deal we can get because   dispute over title, you do two or three   heroes of our society every day through
                  there is no such thing as soft, hard,   things. You reconsider the offer you   that. And that’s what I’m most proud of.
                  smooth. Whatever adjective you want   made, you decide whether to go ahead   It’s like taking a drug, the biggest high I
                  to put in front of Brexit, it’s just going to   or you look somewhere else. If you do   get is helping these charities.
                  be the deal we get given. I think there   that with a house why can’t you do
                  then has to be a proper parliamentary   that with a country? It’s just logical. It   Would you consider going into
                  vote on the deal, no deal and remaining.   is irresponsible of politicians of all sides   politics?
                  Logic says there has to be all three.   not to be pushing for an extension of   No, no. Modern-day politics is run by
                                                  the two years – we need more time to   Whips in the party and I wouldn’t toe
                  So could Remain be back on the table?  come up with a deal. How no deal can   the party line. I would speak out for
                  It’s got to be back on the table. Surely   be better than a bad deal is nonsense.   what I believe in, the system is too
                  you have to have all options there   It’s just empty words.     dysfunctional. My voice, independent
                  because only at that time will we really                        and outside of Parliament, makes
                  know what we’re voting for. At the   Is the Brexit case your proudest   me more powerful. My civic voice is
                  moment it doesn’t matter what we   achievement outside of your children   more powerful than my political voice
                  say, we don’t have a clue, nobody can   and family?             ever could be. This case has given me
                  see in the future, nobody knows. It’s   Actually I’m most proud of the work we   platform. I had to sit and decide how I
                  like buying a house. You put in your   do with the True and Fair Foundation.   was going to use it – there is so much
                  offer, then you get your searches back   We act like an incubator. When   poison in society, particularly against
                  and so on and then if it turns out the   somebody has a small charity or project   women and ethnic minorities, and I
                  person that’s selling the house is not   that nobody else wants to take on, but I   want to use the power I have to change
                  the person entitled to sell it or there’s a   know is doing extraordinary work in    that.



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