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eyes but actually we are elevated to   to have belief in what you’re doing. You   A few months ago, with 10 other
                  the human race when we speak of our   have to want to say what you’ve got to   artists, I was invited into the Ethiopian
                  stories. I do see the arts though as an   say; have a sense that it must be said.   parliament to have a chat with the
                  inspiring place if you are a person of   I’ve been filming the BBC’s Imagine and   PM. Being a boy who was stolen      Arts, Fashion & Design
                  colour. I remember walking down the   going back and talking to people and   from his mother, family and country,
                  street and not seeing a black face on   they seem to say, “that’s how you were”,   hidden in the northwest of England, to
                  any advert. I feel positive about how we   “that’s just what you wanted to be”.  receive an invitation to go and meet the
                  are in this culture because I’ve known                          Prime Minister and sit with him… that
                  what it was like before.        Can you recall being introduced to   was beautiful.
                                                  writers of colour?
                  Your journey – from young black kid in   My English teacher was a bald-  What advice would you give to your
                  care to published poet – is formidable.   headed Lancashire socialist called Mr   younger self?
                  How did you have the confidence?  Unsworth and he used to tell me about   Read as much as you possibly can.
                             It just seemed to make   Linton Kwesi Johnson, and Benjamin
                               sense to me. On the   Zephaniah. Both those men now feel   Today, which writers would you tell a
                                 last day of school I   like older brothers to me.  young ‘you’ to look out for?
                                 wrote a poem for                                 Oh my, such great role models. I’d
                                  the whole year   What became of Mr Unsworth? Is he   say read Inua Ellams; look at Ashley
                                  and got up on   still around?                   Walters; Salena Godden, her poetry
                                   stage and read   Oh yes, when I became Chancellor of   memoir, Springfield Road. Jay Bernard,
                                     it. You’ve got   the University of Manchester, I invited   who has been writing with Linton Kwesi
                                                  him to come!                    Johnson. And then there’s the new
                                                                                  wave of African sci-fi they call Afro-
                                                  Talking of which: you have an MBE,   Futurism. Oh my days, when you read
                                                  you’re winner of this year’s PEN Pinter   Binti by Nnedi Okorafor you realise
                                                  Prize, you were official London 2012   everything else you’ve read in sci-fi – a
                                                  poet, your Channel 4 documentary on   lot of it which may be brilliant – you
                                                  the care system is up for a BAFTA…   see how biased the narrative has been.
                                                   What do the accolades mean?    All those clichéd noises about western
                                                   They’re an acknowledgement of a   eastern blah. Then Toni Morrison, Maya
                                                                   journey I’ve   Angelou, Alice Walker; they wake up
                                                                    been on.      the world not just to who we are but to
                                                                   There are times   beautiful, wonderful writing.
                                                                   when nobody
                                                                  is looking, or   Do you see yourself as a leader?
                                                                 telling you to   I think all people can be leaders
                                                                continue in the   because all people can be an example
                                                                direction you’re on.   to one another. I don’t lead by thinking
                                                               You’re on your own   I have the right to tell anybody to do
                                                              thinking, “am I doing   anything. Make mistakes and make
                                                              the right thing?” When   amends, live by integrity. It’s not all
                                                             I receive an award I’m   about who you are in the public space.
                                                             moved to think of those   And the other stuff – status, money,
                                                             moments. I think of   that’s not leadership; that’s trappings.
                                                              searching for my birth
                                                              family, how I’ve had   What words do you have for budding
                                                             to make a country my   young writers?
                                                            family – Ethiopia. They’re   If you feel passionate about something,
                                                          an acknowledgment of all   find how you can develop it. The
                                                          these things that nobody   biggest thing with fear is, it isn’t getting
                                                          actually saw.           on stage, it’s failing once you get there.
                                                                                  If you can lean into these things, hear
                                                           You’ve travelled worldwide   criticism and walk on anyway then you
                                                           with your poetry. What   are on the first steps of the journey
                                                            single place has been the   towards becoming the writer you
                                                             most mind-blowing?   already are.

















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