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                                  Olivia D. Jones            Music has just been my life-long companion. Every time I hear                                                            Compositional skills are employed constantly as an improviser.
                                                                                                                                                                                      All improvisers have a deep understanding of form, structure,
                                                             an orchestra, I feel so privileged to be able to listen with intent
                                  (2006) internationally     and hear the beautiful nuances of the sounds, the counterpoint                                                           counterpoint, harmony, and music theory. Improvising can
                                  acclaimed                  and the musical elements interweaving.                                                                                   reveal genuinely intuitive composition – for example, intuitive
                                                                                                                                                                                      melodies are often revealed through the improvisation process.
                                  experimental               To be honest, the concept of music as a career was completely
                                  improviser, clarinetist,   foreign to me – I hope that has changed as graduates today                                                               I tend to oscillate at a macro level between periods of focusing on
                                                                                                                                                                                      writing and focusing on playing, mainly depending on the projects
                                                             move into the professional scenes. I just followed my heart,
                                  composer and               practised a lot and let my instinct guide me. I know that’s easy                                                         I have undertaken at the time. But on a micro level all aspects of my
                                  arts fundraiser is         to say and everyone needs to pay rent! I have had to be an                                                               practice are complementary and I find I enjoy being flexible and
                                                                                                                                                                                      open to that – I just let the influences flow through me.
                                                             entrepreneur.
                                  interviewed by JCH
                                                             Did you ever wrestle with the choice to pursue composition over                                                          What role does social media play in your work as an
                                  music student, Hadley  performance, or have you found a way to explore both as a                                                                    independent musician, and how have you navigated the
                                  Wintle (2024).             performer-composer?                                                                                                      vulnerable task of sharing your art online?


                                                             I don’t know how to choose! I love them both. There is a                              Rehearsing at Banff Centre         Vulnerability is a tough hurdle. Artists are required to be
                                                             legendary reeds player and multi-instrumentalist in the States,                                                          vulnerable. Honestly, so often I am just closing my eyes and
          How do you define music?   
                                                             Douglas Ewart, past President of the Association for the              With the potential to both create valuable industry connections   hitting ‘send’!
          For me, music is any sound that captures my ears. I grew   Advancement of Creative Musicians (AACM), the influential     but also put one’s creative practice on the backburner, how was
          up in rural Victoria where the silence is incredibly rich and   Chicago-based free-jazz musicians’ collective. He did a Q&A at   your experience of administrative jobs in your early career?   But in a way my duty is to convey the music. I think all musicians
                                                                                                                                                                                      and artists would feel that obligation. I love sharing my music
          compelling. In Melbourne where I live now there is always an   my Masters school, and he said something that stuck with me:   Would you recommend them to young people starting out in
          underlying hum that can be harmonised with another sound to   touch base with each aspect of your practice every day – even if   this field?                                on Instagram and other platforms. It’s a great way to connect
                                                                                                                                                                                      with the scene and community, even during long periods of
          create something interesting for ears. It’s very inspiring.  it’s for five minutes – it’s like checking in with an old friend. I try
                                                             to sit at the piano every day, pick up each instrument each day,      Yes, totally. I had good experiences with Paul Grabowsky’s   putting my head down and composing or working on whatever
          The 20th century really opened up the concept of sound-as-  and do some electronics. Having said that, some days I don’t do   Australian Art Orchestra as a marketing administrator. I learnt a   project is coming up.
          music in a way we benefit from now – our ears are so open.   everything and that’s fine too! It’s a goal.                lot about the industry in terms of how the ensemble engaged   My admin. work taught me a lot about promotion. I don’t think
          The Electroacoustic composers, and also the post-Bebop era in                                                            with major Melbourne venues, through to how funding works.   I have it solidly down – there is a lot of material I simply forget
          Chicago and New York, were embraced in Australia by groups   Did you get involved in any memorable events or performances   I proofed grant applications and prepared budgets – and that   to post. But self-promotion is a big part of an indie artist’s job. I
          like the Australian Art Orchestra. I feel very lucky to have that   during your time at JCH?                             work is invaluable for what is essentially a very entrepreneurial   love having a website. It not only helps to promote my work but
          recent history to open up my ears.                                                                                       career as an artist.
                                                             So many gorgeous performances! I was lucky enough to see the                                                             also adds an element of professionalism to what I am doing.
          If music is essentially a crucible of melody, harmony and rhythm   Seraphim Trio with Anna Goldsworthy – we were so fortunate   For a while, admin. as a career dominated as it was the money
          that generates a human emotional response, then we have so   to have a very rich music environment when I was in JCH.    maker – and the non-profit arts world can take up a lot of   Which aspect of your career now do you find the most
          many options, a fact which I find really cool and exciting!                                                              energy, particularly when you are attending shows in the   rewarding, and which part do you find most tedious?
                                                             The best memory for me is my fellow JCH music friends                 evening and working full time. I would recommend it but also
                                                             premiering my piano trio Autumn Colours at High Table dinner.                                                            I love making music with friends. It’s great to be at a point in my
          In what ways did your early education and upbringing                                                                     emphasise the need to find ways to maintain balance. Some   career where I know what I like to do and what I dislike and am
          shape your relationship with music and desire to pursue it   The Dining Hall is acoustically so resonant with the gorgeous   days if you’re exhausted from admin. work and all you have   now in a position to choose. This is the reward for all those years
          professionally? Did any family members, teachers, or artists   high ceiling. I am grateful the College was so supportive and   the energy to do is play your instrument for fun or sketch a few   of practising and taking any gigs I could get!
          particularly inspire you?                          open to them premiering my piece for me, in front of a room of        chords and play them on repeat – that is beneficial connection
                                                             my best friends. They cheered so hard at the end! JCH is such a       with your artistic practice.                       Rejection, and managing my reaction to rejection, is tough. It
          I was lucky to attend a state primary school with great music   special place.                                                                                              can sometimes feel as though you are the only one fighting for
          teachers. There was a lot of singing in class and that beautiful                                                         What musical element (if any) do you value the most when   a project or an idea, but grant rejections are not an indictment
          communal energy is a very positive early memory. I also had                                                              writing, performing, or even listening to music? This might be   of an idea. They are always part of a larger macro vision the
          wonderful music teachers at high school where I was exposed                                                              melody, harmony, timbre, texture, etc.             grant maker holds for their work. Often, I’ve been ‘so close’ and
          to the 19th century clarinet repertoire that is so important, but I                                                                                                         just not quite right, but if the idea is solid and I believe in it, I
          had also begun to fall in love with jazz. I idolised the musicians’                                                      What a tough question! Maybe the aspect I value the most is   know I can realise it somehow.
          deep musical knowledge, excellent ears and natural creativity.                                                           the weaving of an artistic dream.The way art takes us into an
                                                                                                                                   alternative dimension of solace and storytelling in a language   To wrap up, do you have any final advice for young people
          For me, music is the beginning of everything! My earliest                                                                our bodies understand, even if the language is foreign. The way
          memories are reaching out to anything musical I could get                                                                our DNA is altered slightly and then back we float in the sure   hoping to build a full-time career in the Arts in Melbourne?
          my hands on. My parents often took my sister and me to                                                                   hands of accomplished and self-assured artists.    What might you wish your 19-year-old self had known?

          Melbourne to see MTC, NGV exhibitions and musical theatre. I                                                                                                                I wish I had been less hard on my 19-year-old self!  But I think
          drank up that exposure. When I was very young I taught myself                                                            I also love the communal nature of music making and I tend   I trusted my heart to guide me, and placed a lot of trust in my
          piano on our electronic keyboard and came up with my own                                                                 to enjoy experiences most when we are in that pocket,   instinct, and I’m glad I did – even while being highly critical of
          way to notate and identify the sounds I was producing, long                                                              together, experiencing a beautiful thing as one. Music   myself as a musician. These days, I do a lot of positive self-talk.
          before I could read notes on staves.                                                                                     making is conversational, it’s sometimes the deepest form of
                                                                                                                                   communication. I think that communal element is something   A good piece of advice is to find a mentor. Not just your teacher,
          My parents played Cold Chisel records and Crosby, Stills &                                                               that can resonate beyond ourselves into the space to impact   but someone you can grab a meal with and chat to about your
          Nash at home, but they were also passionate about ballet and                                                             not only the other musicians and audience but also out into the   work and industry-related issues. I have had mentors over the
          musicals so there was Rimsky-Korsakov and Tchaikovsky too.                                                               world.                                             years – and I have often reached out to folks who in my eyes are
                                                                                                                                                                                      mega-stars, and I’ve never regretted it.
          I remember clarinetist Sabine Meyer played with the MSO                                                                  In what ways do you think your improvisation and composition
          in Geelong and my music class went. It was foundational to                                                               processes influence your clarinet performance and vice versa?   I have not once regretted reaching out to an established musician –
          extending my deep love of the instrument. I still remember                                                                                                                  like Kris Davis in New York, or Sandy Evans in Sydney – because
          everything about the concert – the way she stood on the Costa                                                            Absolutely, and completely. All aspects of my composing are   our work is communal and the teaching of it is essential oratory.
                                                                                                                                                                                                           Bjork performing dressed as DNA
          Hall stage and the pristine sound!                        Olivia Jones (credit Rita Taylor, Banff Centre 2024)           impacted by my experience as a performer.          Musicians want to commune. They want to hear from you!
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