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 Olivia D. Jones   Music has just been my life-long companion. Every time I hear   Compositional skills are employed constantly as an improviser.
                                                               All improvisers have a deep understanding of form, structure,
 an orchestra, I feel so privileged to be able to listen with intent
 (2006) internationally   and hear the beautiful nuances of the sounds, the counterpoint   counterpoint, harmony, and music theory. Improvising can
 acclaimed   and the musical elements interweaving.            reveal genuinely intuitive composition – for example, intuitive
                                                               melodies are often revealed through the improvisation process.
 experimental   To be honest, the concept of music as a career was completely
 improviser, clarinetist,   foreign to me – I hope that has changed as graduates today   I tend to oscillate at a macro level between periods of focusing on
                                                               writing and focusing on playing, mainly depending on the projects
 move into the professional scenes. I just followed my heart,
 composer and   practised a lot and let my instinct guide me. I know that’s easy   I have undertaken at the time. But on a micro level all aspects of my
 arts fundraiser is   to say and everyone needs to pay rent! I have had to be an   practice are complementary and I find I enjoy being flexible and
                                                               open to that – I just let the influences flow through me.
 entrepreneur.
 interviewed by JCH
 Did you ever wrestle with the choice to pursue composition over   What role does social media play in your work as an
 music student, Hadley  performance, or have you found a way to explore both as a   independent musician, and how have you navigated the
 Wintle (2024).  performer-composer?                           vulnerable task of sharing your art online?


 I don’t know how to choose! I love them both. There is a   Rehearsing at Banff Centre  Vulnerability is a tough hurdle. Artists are required to be
 legendary reeds player and multi-instrumentalist in the States,   vulnerable. Honestly, so often I am just closing my eyes and
 How do you define music?   
 Douglas Ewart, past President of the Association for the   With the potential to both create valuable industry connections   hitting ‘send’!
 For me, music is any sound that captures my ears. I grew   Advancement of Creative Musicians (AACM), the influential   but also put one’s creative practice on the backburner, how was
 up in rural Victoria where the silence is incredibly rich and   Chicago-based free-jazz musicians’ collective. He did a Q&A at   your experience of administrative jobs in your early career?   But in a way my duty is to convey the music. I think all musicians
                                                               and artists would feel that obligation. I love sharing my music
 compelling. In Melbourne where I live now there is always an   my Masters school, and he said something that stuck with me:   Would you recommend them to young people starting out in
 underlying hum that can be harmonised with another sound to   touch base with each aspect of your practice every day – even if   this field?   on Instagram and other platforms. It’s a great way to connect
                                                               with the scene and community, even during long periods of
 create something interesting for ears. It’s very inspiring.  it’s for five minutes – it’s like checking in with an old friend. I try
 to sit at the piano every day, pick up each instrument each day,   Yes, totally. I had good experiences with Paul Grabowsky’s   putting my head down and composing or working on whatever
 The 20th century really opened up the concept of sound-as-  and do some electronics. Having said that, some days I don’t do   Australian Art Orchestra as a marketing administrator. I learnt a   project is coming up.
 music in a way we benefit from now – our ears are so open.   everything and that’s fine too! It’s a goal.  lot about the industry in terms of how the ensemble engaged   My admin. work taught me a lot about promotion. I don’t think
 The Electroacoustic composers, and also the post-Bebop era in      with major Melbourne venues, through to how funding works.   I have it solidly down – there is a lot of material I simply forget
 Chicago and New York, were embraced in Australia by groups   Did you get involved in any memorable events or performances   I proofed grant applications and prepared budgets – and that   to post. But self-promotion is a big part of an indie artist’s job. I
 like the Australian Art Orchestra. I feel very lucky to have that   during your time at JCH?   work is invaluable for what is essentially a very entrepreneurial   love having a website. It not only helps to promote my work but
 recent history to open up my ears.     career as an artist.
 So many gorgeous performances! I was lucky enough to see the   also adds an element of professionalism to what I am doing.
 If music is essentially a crucible of melody, harmony and rhythm   Seraphim Trio with Anna Goldsworthy – we were so fortunate   For a while, admin. as a career dominated as it was the money
 that generates a human emotional response, then we have so   to have a very rich music environment when I was in JCH.  maker – and the non-profit arts world can take up a lot of   Which aspect of your career now do you find the most
 many options, a fact which I find really cool and exciting!  energy, particularly when you are attending shows in the   rewarding, and which part do you find most tedious?
 The best memory for me is my fellow JCH music friends   evening and working full time. I would recommend it but also
 premiering my piano trio Autumn Colours at High Table dinner.   I love making music with friends. It’s great to be at a point in my
 In what ways did your early education and upbringing   emphasise the need to find ways to maintain balance. Some   career where I know what I like to do and what I dislike and am
 shape your relationship with music and desire to pursue it   The Dining Hall is acoustically so resonant with the gorgeous   days if you’re exhausted from admin. work and all you have   now in a position to choose. This is the reward for all those years
 professionally? Did any family members, teachers, or artists   high ceiling. I am grateful the College was so supportive and   the energy to do is play your instrument for fun or sketch a few   of practising and taking any gigs I could get!
 particularly inspire you?   open to them premiering my piece for me, in front of a room of   chords and play them on repeat – that is beneficial connection
 my best friends. They cheered so hard at the end! JCH is such a   with your artistic practice.    Rejection, and managing my reaction to rejection, is tough. It
 I was lucky to attend a state primary school with great music   special place.     can sometimes feel as though you are the only one fighting for
 teachers. There was a lot of singing in class and that beautiful   What musical element (if any) do you value the most when   a project or an idea, but grant rejections are not an indictment
 communal energy is a very positive early memory. I also had   writing, performing, or even listening to music? This might be   of an idea. They are always part of a larger macro vision the
 wonderful music teachers at high school where I was exposed   melody, harmony, timbre, texture, etc.   grant maker holds for their work. Often, I’ve been ‘so close’ and
 to the 19th century clarinet repertoire that is so important, but I   just not quite right, but if the idea is solid and I believe in it, I
 had also begun to fall in love with jazz. I idolised the musicians’   What a tough question! Maybe the aspect I value the most is   know I can realise it somehow.
 deep musical knowledge, excellent ears and natural creativity.  the weaving of an artistic dream.The way art takes us into an
            alternative dimension of solace and storytelling in a language   To wrap up, do you have any final advice for young people
 For me, music is the beginning of everything! My earliest   our bodies understand, even if the language is foreign. The way
 memories are reaching out to anything musical I could get   our DNA is altered slightly and then back we float in the sure   hoping to build a full-time career in the Arts in Melbourne?
 my hands on. My parents often took my sister and me to   hands of accomplished and self-assured artists.  What might you wish your 19-year-old self had known?

 Melbourne to see MTC, NGV exhibitions and musical theatre. I   I wish I had been less hard on my 19-year-old self!  But I think
 drank up that exposure. When I was very young I taught myself   I also love the communal nature of music making and I tend   I trusted my heart to guide me, and placed a lot of trust in my
 piano on our electronic keyboard and came up with my own   to enjoy experiences most when we are in that pocket,   instinct, and I’m glad I did – even while being highly critical of
 way to notate and identify the sounds I was producing, long   together, experiencing a beautiful thing as one. Music   myself as a musician. These days, I do a lot of positive self-talk.
 before I could read notes on staves.   making is conversational, it’s sometimes the deepest form of
            communication. I think that communal element is something   A good piece of advice is to find a mentor. Not just your teacher,
 My parents played Cold Chisel records and Crosby, Stills &   that can resonate beyond ourselves into the space to impact   but someone you can grab a meal with and chat to about your
 Nash at home, but they were also passionate about ballet and   not only the other musicians and audience but also out into the   work and industry-related issues. I have had mentors over the
 musicals so there was Rimsky-Korsakov and Tchaikovsky too.  world.      years – and I have often reached out to folks who in my eyes are
                                                               mega-stars, and I’ve never regretted it.
 I remember clarinetist Sabine Meyer played with the MSO   In what ways do you think your improvisation and composition
 in Geelong and my music class went. It was foundational to   processes influence your clarinet performance and vice versa?   I have not once regretted reaching out to an established musician –
 extending my deep love of the instrument. I still remember      like Kris Davis in New York, or Sandy Evans in Sydney – because
 everything about the concert – the way she stood on the Costa   Absolutely, and completely. All aspects of my composing are   our work is communal and the teaching of it is essential oratory.
                                                                                    Bjork performing dressed as DNA
 Hall stage and the pristine sound!   Olivia Jones (credit Rita Taylor, Banff Centre 2024)  impacted by my experience as a performer.  Musicians want to commune. They want to hear from you!
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