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Sefer Chafetz Chayim                  םייח ץפח רפס
 Hilchot Esurei Lashon Hara        ערה ןושל ירוסיא תוכלה
 Kelal Zayin  -  Halachah 9            ז-ו הכלה -  ז ללכ


 from the Gemara Bavli or Yerushalmi that it is permitted to believe in one’s   םייחה רוקמ
 heart  the  Lashon  Hara  incidentally  related  about  another  Jew  (because
 anything  more  than  that  is  definitely  forbidden,  as  I  will  demonstrate    וֹרוּפִּס ךְוֹתבוּ וינינִע תא וֹל רפּסְמוּ וֹלצא אבּ דחא םִאו .ו
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 with G‑d’s help using explicit proofs).  Thus I found myself obligated to
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 demonstrate to everyone what constitutes “an incidental remark” so that at    רָתּמ וֹניא ,וֹרבחלו וֹמצעל תוּנגּ אוּהֶשׁ ,רבדּ הזיא וֹל רפִּס
 the very least no one will make a mistake in this regard.
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                         .וֹרבח לע אלֹו )אי( וֹמְצַע לַע קרַ ,וֹניִמֲאַהְל
 First,  you  must  know  that  matters  of  Lashon  Hara  are  not  completely
 parallel to testimony regarding a woman (i.e., allowing her to remarry).  In
 that circumstance if a solitary Jew testifies that a woman’s husband died,
 even if the statement was not incidental, meaning that his testimony was   םייח םימ ראב
 intentional, he is believed and (based on that statement) she is allowed to
 remarry.  However, here he is not believed, even if this witness \ speaker    ןנירמאד  הממ  הזל  היארו  .וריבח  לע  אלו  )אי(
 is reporting how one person wronged another, in which context he would
 not be culpable for speaking Lashon Hara as he can excuse himself by    לע תנמאנ האמט יתרבחו ינא )ב"ע ג"כ( תובותכב
 claiming that his motivation was merely to be zealous to arrive at the truth    ירייאד ארמגב ש"עו התרבח לע תנמאנ הניאו המצע
 (and help the “injured” party).  The most we could do is only suspect the
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 veracity of his comments, as I explained above in the 6  Kelal, 2  halacha    קר תנמאנ הניא יכה םושמו תיבשנד םידע אכילד
 [And if this incident involved the victim’s relationship with G‑d, we (the    ,הרהט תקזחב תדמועד התרבח לע אלו המצע לע
 Beit Din) punish the speaker with lashes for speaking Lashon Hara against
 a fellow Jew, as is brought down in Gemara Pesachim (113b) regarding the    דמוע לארשימ שיא םתס לכ ונינינעב ימנ יכהו
 incident involving Tuvia].  (Please see that reference).  Rather, everything    ומצע לע קר רפסמה ןמאנ וניאו ןוגהו רשכ תקזחב
 we are saying here applies even if we agree that the incidental remarks of
 a Jew can be believed completely and accepted in one’s heart similar to the   .וילע אלו
 way we can believe a gentile, as I will explain further on (i.e., in all other
 matters of “testimony” but not in matters of Lashon Hara).
 Now  to  explain  some  of  the  details\  criteria  that  define  “incidental   .זומת א"כ ,'ב רדא א"י ,ולסכ 'ב - תרבועמ הנש    .זומת ט"כ ,רדא ט"כ ,ןושח 'ל - הטושפ הנש :ימוי חול
 remarks”:
 This is the language used to express this law in Shulchan Aruch Ehven   םייחה רוקמ
 HaEzer section #17 paragraph #14: We have already said that we allow a
 woman to remarry based on the statement made by a gentile who incidentally    ערָה ןוֹשׁל תלבּקַ ןידּ 'ה תרַזעבּ ראבל ליִחְתנ הָתּעו .ז
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 remarked he saw her husband die.  How was that statement expressed?  He
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 was talking in general about other matters and said incidentally “what a    חיִסֵמִּמ וֹא ,)םידִֵע ינְשִׁכּ( ירְֵתּ יבכּ )ןמאנ( ןמיהְמ אוּהֶשׁ ,שׁיִאֵמ
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 shame so‑and‑so died, he was such a nice person, he always did favors for
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 me” and similar sentiments that demonstrate to us he has no intention of    םירִכּנּה םירִבדּ אוּהה רוּפִּסּה לע וֹל שׁי םִא וֹא ,וֹמּתּ יִפל
 giving “testimony” but incidentally described how her husband died.  In    ןכ יִפּ לע ףא ,ןיוָשׁ םה םינידּה ברֹבֶּשׁ ףאו ,תמא אוּהֶשׁ
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 this framework the gentile is believed.  The Beit Shemuel in paragraph #36
 of that reference holds that a gentile who comes to testify in Beit Din, even    ינְפִּמ ,ןמצע ינְפִבּ ןיִפיִעסִבּ דחאו דחא לכּ םָתוֹא יִתּקְלִּח
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 if his comments are incidental, is not believed and we say that maybe his
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 intent was to give testimony.  Here too in our discussion, as long as we    ,וֹרבחֵמ וֹנידִבּ דחא לכּ הנַּתְּשִׁמֶּשׁ ,םידִחא םיִטרְָפּ שׁיֶּשׁ
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