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Bill: That’s shocking to me; because, I mean simply because it’s called the Air Force. It
is not called the Army. Anyone going to the Academy should have some

sprinkling of the fundamentals of flight.

Ivan: Now you took the AFOQT after you graduated from college, correct?

Bill: I think I took it while I was still in college - my senior year, probably last, because
you had to take that before they get you in the pilot training. Yeah, but I took
that while I was still in university; probably my…. last part of my last year

Ivan: So by that time you had already been in the air and flying and soloed and…

Bill: Well, I'm not sure about the exact timing of that. Probably not. Probably…I don’t
remember exactly what the sequence was.

Ivan: Ok. No I was just curious because one of the points I make in the book is that

students; now they take the AFOQT, but we don't give them any, you know,
ground school, or fundamentals of flight before that, so it’s based on what they
learned in high school. So if you don’t get it in high school and you don't get it in
college, it’s you know, it’s testing not on how well you learned what you were
taught, but your prior knowledge from somewhere else. And over 20 percent of
the test is Fundamentals of Flight and Instrumentation.

Bill: Right.

Ivan: So it kind of feeds this this thing where you know, if you don't get it, you know,
I'll say people that have lower income, who probably wouldn't have access to get
in the air, or get to a program where they would have a ground school, or get to
a good high school where they are going to have a class, in, I don't know if that

would be advanced physics, or something in high school where they could take
something that would teach them, you know, thermodynamics…you know, lift,
and things like that. And so in that sense it is biased, but now this was good for
me, and I really appreciate your time…

Bill: It was really nice talking to you.

Ivan: Alright, Bill. Thank you, bye- bye.

Bill: Okay have a good week end. Bye.