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           I also learned about the history of   the next life. Because of this, he was   commentary and the Vimānavatthu,
           colonialism, and how that impacts   reborn as a preta. His family also did   with minor variances. Dhammapāla
           the way we think about religion   not believe in the benefit of giving   himself acknowledged that some
           today. Going to graduate school to   alms to the dead, but fortunately for   stories in the Petavatthu were later
           specialize in Buddhism was one    Nandaka, his daughter did believe   additions—for example, he says
           way to explore those interests. As a   in karma. She donated rice cakes   that the events in the Uttaramātu
           result, my scholarship on Buddhism   and water to a monk and dedicated   Petavatthu (Preta Tale About
           tends to focus on postcolonial    them to Nandaka. Once he receives   Uttara’s Mother, PVA II.10), occurred
           approaches to the study of religion,   the food, he learns his lesson about   during the First Council and that the
           and the way that Buddhism         his false views. He then goes on   story was included in the Petavatthu
           intersects with race, gender,     to teach King Piṅgala about the   at the Second Council.
           sexuality, and caste.             Buddhist understanding of karma.
                                                                               In early Buddhism the term
                                             For sceptics and nihilists, this story
           In your book Ancestors and        would have acted as proof of the   ‘peta” refers simply to departed
           Ghosts, you mentioned that the    veracity of the Buddha’s teaching on   ancestors. But in the Jāṇussoṇin
           literature on pretas (Pāli: Petas)   karma and that it was possible—or   Sutta, AN 10.177, the Buddha
           helped develop and articulate     even necessary—to give alms to    explained that offerings made to
           the Buddhist understandings of    assist individuals in their next life.  departed ones were only effective
           actions and their fruits. Is the                                    if they were born specifically
           Buddha using stories of petas to   You also mentioned in your book   in the peta realm. Why is it that
           teach the law of karma?           that cosmologies are not laid     only those born in the peta realm
                                             down fully formed in doctrinal    can partake of the offerings made

           Yes, I propose that preta tales argue   treatises but cumulatively built   by humans?
           for the Buddhist understanding of   over time. Does this mean that a
           karma. Pretas are evidence that our   text like Petavatthu had evolved   The Jāṇussoṇi Sutta, as you note,
           actions bear fruit in future lives.   through different versions over a   features a group of Brahmans who
           As a result, these narratives, with   long period?                  ask the Buddha if the śrāddha rite is
           their focus on specific concrete                                    effective. Śrāddha rites were used by
           circumstances, are rich sources for   Yes, the Petavatthu was originally   Brahmans to facilitate the transition
           exploring and expanding on the    circulated orally. It is generally   of the disembodied departed (also
           teachings of karma. Many tales in   considered a later addition to   known as a preta!) to the ancestral
           the Petavatthu position their lessons   the Pāli Canon. It is possible   realm. The question that the
           about karma against other schools   that individual verses circulated   Brahmans ask is not only about
           of interpretation, particularly those   throughout Buddhist communities,   ritual procedure. It is also about
           who do not believe that karma     became solidified at different    what happens to us after we die,
           determines our next life, or who do   times, and, at various stages of   and if it is possible to assist those
           not believe in the idea of rebirth at   this process, were given prose   in the next world. For Buddhists,
           all. Both were examples of wrong   narrative frames. Eventually some   the departed are reborn in one
           views. Pretas often teach lessons   of these tales were compiled into   of multiple realms based on their
           themselves about karma. One       the collection now known as the   karma. For this reason, they reject
           example is in the story of Nandaka   Petavatthu and given a prose   the Brahman idea that all deceased
           (PvA IV.3). Nandaka was a nihilist   commentary by Dhammapāla.      individuals who receive the śrāddha
           (nāstika) who did not believe that   Dhammapāla himself relied on   rites go to the ancestral realm. This
           actions influence our rebirth. He   prior commentaries. Some verses   sutta suggests that what Brahmans
           was also sceptical about our ability   in the Petavatthu appear in other   think of as pretas are, in reality,
           to give offerings to help pretas in   collections, like the Dhammapada   (typically miserable) creatures
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