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           Is there a reason why you start with the teacher   sometimes teachers say things that are opposite of each
           training program first, before setting up the school?  other, so you don’t know which one is correct.
                                                              Here in the foundation studies program, you have
           Mingyur Rinpoche: It is very important that the    the entire map of the Buddha-Dharma. Subsequently,
           teacher is first trained, because we are going to have   you will have a key. So after that, whatever you learn,
           a lot of living experiential wisdom being experienced   you can put it into different parts of the map. Some
           in the school. We also don’t have a curriculum. The   teachings are based on the Theravāda, some teachings
           students will make the curriculum by themselves, so   are based on the Mahāyāna and some teachings are
           the teachers would have to teach from their experience,   based on the Vajrayāna. Then your knowledge will
           from their hearts. Therefore teacher-training is very   become richer and richer.
           important. Normally in regular schools in Nepal, a
           person who has completed his Masters degree doesn’t   Is the Foundation Buddhist Course at Abiding Heart
           need to go through any teacher-training. He just picks   only open to Buddhists?
           up the class book and he is ready to teach.
                                                              Mingyur Rinpoche: This program is open to anyone
           However, here we are very particular about having a   who is interested. They can be Buddhists or non-
           strong teacher-training program. Even with the existing   Buddhists. But the teachings are Buddhist teachings!
           mainstream teacher-training programs, there is already
           too much focus on intellectual training. So even though   Rinpoche, is there anything else you would like the
           at present we cannot set up a big school here, but if you   readers to know about Abiding Heart Education?
           train the teachers, they can sprout out in many places.
                                                              Mingyur Rinoche: The main thing is that Education
           How is the Experiential Foundation Buddhist        and the way of life – both inner and outer, should be
           Course at Abiding Heart Education different from   one. Education is not just for our external life. Education
           other Buddhist philosophy programs and retreat     purely for our external life has limitations, but if
           programs?                                          education transforms our inner life, from inside to out,
                                                              then there are no limitations. This is what we want to
           Mingyur Rinpoche: We try to put ‘View’, ‘Meditation’   emphasize here at Abiding Heart Education.
           and ‘Application’ together. Furthermore, we integrate
           and emphasize a lot of ‘doing’. We have art, sculpture   When we were at Tergar Osel Ling Monastery, we
           and many other activities to apply meditation. In the   saw much construction taking place. Can you please
           morning, you learn the theory and meditation. In   tell us a bit about the projects that are ongoing at
           the afternoon, you apply them in different forms. We   Tergar Osel Ling Monastery?
           also distil the essence of the three yānas – Theravāda,
           Mahāyāna and Vajrayāna. This is like a key. Once you   Mingyur Rinpoche: In the monastery, there are two
           know this, you have the map of the entire Buddha-  main projects. One is the traditional Buddhist studies
           Dharma. Many students are confused, especially     project combined with meditation practice for the
           Buddhist students who go to many different teachers.   monastic sangha. Many institutions teach Buddhist
           One teacher says Dharma is like that. It is almost as if   philosophy, but there is not much meditation. There
           you are looking at an elephant with closed eyes. When   are retreat centers with lots of meditation, but people
           you touch one part of the elephant, you think the   don’t have the background knowledge. So here in this
           elephant is like a snake. When you touch the trunk of an   institution they will be combined. Our monastic sangha
           elephant, you think the elephant is like a tree. When you   will both study and meditate.
           touch the belly of the elephant, you think the elephant
           is like a drum. Hence you get confused. Furthermore,
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