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           These are wholesome ego perceptions. The word “ego”   A problematic overlay that often surfaces is the
           mentioned earlier refers to unhealthy ways that we   Bodhisattva path of doing social good actively, while the
           prop ourselves up. But here, if one does it skillfully,   Theravāda path is viewed as retreating and meditating.
           intentionally, and in a way which doesn’t exalt oneself or   It is problematic because I've seen the benefits of both
           disparage others in a way which is socially detrimental,   paths – for those who choose to go on retreats and
           then that’s a great thing to do. At least, until you’re able   cultivating, and those who go out in the world doing
           to see the liability of it, and to practice otherwise.  social good actively.
           Ajahn Nisabho: I like Ajahn Kovilo’s answer.
                                                              And as to what happens when one approaches that
           Benny: In Mahāyāna Buddhism, the bodhisattva vows   final goal, I think it's beyond concept. I don't see a need
           to keep returning to saṃsāra to help all beings. Is this   to distinguish the two. I see the need to follow the
           perspective in conflict with the Theravāda emphasis   Buddhist teachings as well as we can, and practice with
           on ending rebirth? Or can they be reconciled?      dedication as much as we can in the moment.



           Ajahn Nisabho:This is a big question. Ajahn Amaro   Ajahn Kovilo: I support Ajahn Nisabho’s answer.
           notes the Bodhisattva vows to remain in saṃsāra until   Benny: In Tibetan Buddhism, there is frequent mention
           all beings are freed are always given in tandem with the   of navigating the bardos and even choosing one's
           teachings on emptiness (śūnyatā). These vows sound   next rebirth. How might this be understood from a
           profoundly inspirational and powerful.             Theravāda perspective — as a form of skillful means, or
                                                              something else?
           I think there may be a point in one’s practice where one
           realizes that all beings are empty, and awakening can   Ajahn Kovilo: The idea of the bardos, the in-between
           occur, even within the context of a vow. I feel that as   realms, is not much spoken of, certainly not in detail in
           one approaches the goal of Nibbāna, or the mind of the   the oldest strata of the Pali Canon, though there is a word
           Bodhisattva, the concepts that each school overlays onto   - sambhavesi - which is being, seeking rebirth, some kind
           that point, makes the goal problematic and coarse.  of interim ghost or intermediate realm in-between. The
                                                              word is mentioned, but not elaborated upon.
           In the Theravāda and the early suttas, although the
           idea of Nibbāna is not spoken of in much detail, it's   But in terms of choosing one's next rebirth, I refer, once
           not a blank nothingness. And when one speaks to    again, to the Saṅkhārupapatti Sutta, MN 120. In that
           the masters of the tradition, there are indications of   sutta, the Buddha taught how one can influence one's
           esoteric elements. Ajahn Mun, the grandfather of the   next birth. The Buddha said, one may have the wish to
           Thai forest tradition, on the night of the moment of   be reborn as a noble, a Brahmin; one might wish to be
           his enlightenment, he encountered visions of previous   reborn into a wealthy family or amongst gods of the two
           Buddhas and arahants; what does one do with that?  Sittas; or gods of the Nibbāna Rati; or all of the higher
                                                              levels of gods, right up to attaining Nibbāna if they did
           My view is to put aside a bit of the conceptual overlays   five things. They must have a certain level of faith, ethics,
           which have accumulated over the centuries and      and generosity and have the capacity for generosity;
           understand that good practice is "good practice is good   they must also have a certain level of learning and
           practice, is good practice”. There has never been a   wisdom. These are the qualities of beings in the higher
           moment in my own practice where I've had a fork in the   realms. Hence, in the Theravāda context, according to
           road between what was good practice in one path, and   the sutta, one can incline one's path towards future
           what was also good practice in the other.          positive rebirths as one wishes or towards Nibbāna.
                                                              That is wholly possible. EH
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