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 “Back then, out of the humanitarian funding,   to  give  results.  I  think  that’s  what  we  offer.   look forward to doing the same with Martin  partners  are  invited  to  join,  and  we  outline
 only 2.1 percent went to education. This begs   It is a very good example of how the United   Griffiths. So, he created it, and I was appointed  strategic  plans  of  Education  Cannot  Wait,
               to build and lead it.
                                                      and  what  we  expect  as  an  outcome,  and
 Nations really delivers.
 question: is this what, we would invest in the       then  they  embark  on  the  assessment  in  the
 education of our own children?”  So yes, sometimes it takes two years, sometimes   Q: Education is the basis for everything. How  country,  they  develop  the  joint  programme.
 it happens over a meeting. It all depends, but   do you choose your partners on the ground?  “Who has the competitive advantage?” “You
 most of them have been members of Education   Through  the  United  Nations  Coordination  are better at school feeding...” Then you might
 Cannot Wait for a long time, while others are   Mechanisms under the Resident/Humanitarian  have one programme with five, six or seven
 United  Nations  Secretary  General  Antonio   coming on board every year.  Coordinator  and  the  Inter-Agency  System,  different  actors  working  hand  in  hand.  The
 Guterres  also  uses,  “Less  bureaucracy,  more   that is how you remove the conflict-of-interest  humanitarians do a quick response and then
 accountability,” and we really try to live by it.  Q:  Education  Cannot  Wait  –  was  it  your   element. You have in a country two sorts of  the development actors do the medium- and
 We  have  slashed  all  the  redundant   idea?  coordination mechanisms in a disaster crisis.  long-term investment. That’s the humanitarian-
 bureaucracy, and kept that which is required   This idea belongs to the former Prime Minister   One is the cluster system which goes under an  development nexus in one programme! Then
 for  financial  management  and  transparency.   of  Great  Britain,  The  Hon.  Gordon  Brown   OCHA  inter-aid  standing  committee.  They  we put in seed funds, 25 millions – 45 million.
 We are focusing on results and action, and we   who is the United Nations Special Envoy for   have  a  cluster  for  education  that  cooperates  The  total  cost  of  the  programme  might  be
 are very agile. We go out to these countries;   Education. He is the chair of the High-Level   with the cluster for cooperation, and a cluster  200 million. Then we mobilise in-country or
 we  are  not  a  fund  that  sits  in  headquarters   Steering  Group.  He  came  up  with  this  idea   for water and sanitation. It is the Humanitarian  outside  means,  to  find  the  remaining  $155-
 and  open  envelopes.  We  go  out  and  make   years ago. He has always been very passionate   Coordinator that leads that process. When you  175  million.  We  use  all  avenues  to  bring  in
 the  Unite  Nations  and  the  NGOs  work   about  education.  He  realised  that  there  was   have refugee situations, the High Commission  resources. We see ourselves as a catalytic fund
 together with host-governments. We use the   too much bureaucracy and that we could not   for  Refugees  coordinates  the  situation,  so,  to  help  our  colleagues,  host  governments,
 United  Nations  coordination  mechanisms   move in a crisis. There was also the realisation   it  all  depends  on  the  context.  For  example,  communities  on  the  ground,  families  and
 that have been in place for decades, and we   that refugees – you may wait for 15 to 20 years   if  I  go  to  Uganda,  where  we  have  a  major  children to get resources on the ground. We
 pursue implementation of the UN Secretary-  to  get  an  education  because  humanitarian   refugee and education plan, UNHCR helps us  do  not  take  resources  for  ourselves  because
 General’s Reform. So, it is a whole new way   priorities are very different. Tents – yes they’re   coordinate that together with other agencies,  we are only 31 staff. We are just operating at
 of working! We bring in everybody to work   important. They’ll get education even though   donors  and  civil  society.  We  are  running  a  minimum. As long as we have our salaries and
 together through joint programming. We are   it’s  not  part  of  the  humanitarian  response,   massive  education  response  plan  there  for  are able to travel and be the convener, that’s it!
 very strict on results and quality. You must be   but they will wait 20, 30 years or even longer.   South Sudanese refugees, children and youth.  We do not want a big bulky bureaucracy. That
 when  you  have  a  major  actor  like  Germany   Look at Afghanistan. So, he said, “This is not   It  was  also  among  the  first  ones,  then  came  is what makes it so exciting. We are not here to
 or the United Kingdom, which is our second   OK. Education has to be part of the response.”   Afghanistan  and  Lebanon.  Now  we  have  24  build an empire but to empower!
 largest donor, or the Scandinavian countries,   Back then, out of the humanitarian funding,   multi-year joint programmes and investments
 like Denmark or Norway, and then of course   only 2.1 percent went to education. This begs   in 43 crisis countries.   Q; How has the Covid pandemic influenced
 Canada and the EU and others. What they see,   question: is this what, we would invest in the   your work?
 year in year out, is results, accountability. They   education  of  our  own  children?  The  answer   If  you  have  internally  displaced  persons,  Well, it is challenging because children cannot
 have  decision-maker  power.  We  are  in  this   is:  of  course  not!  He  said  we  have  to  raise   then it is the Humanitarian Cluster that leads  go  to  school,  social  distancing  and  all  that
 together. Of course, they would want to invest.   investment  funds,  which  we  did,  working   the  coordination.  Through  that  process,  we  comes with it. So, we have a choice, because
 They invest because they know that it’s going   closely with OCHA and Mark Lawcock. We   organise  meetings  where  all  the  different  most  of  us  in  the  international  community




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