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track. So that got recorded and about six weeks later I heard it on the radio, which was just
     absolutely wonderful because obviously I'd never been on the radio before. So to hear us there
     on the radio was absolutely brilliant, and then to top it all, it actually went to number one with
     Isaac Banks Radio in Australia. So I was absolutely over the moon. I just couldn't believe it, I
     really couldn't.

     BiTS:  That's wonderful. Wonderful. Do you like listening to your own voice, Debra?

     DS:  Well, I think so, sort of. That's sort of a difficult one because I never want to sound like
     conceited, do you know what I mean? But I think as long as I believe in the music I write, and as
     long as everybody else enjoys it, and as long as I like the song, then I'm quite happy. But no, I
                                                            mean I probably wouldn't listen to myself all day
      Ritchie Dave Porter with Debra Susan and their
                                                            long.
                   producer Richard Tingle
                                                            RDP:  I mean, you know me, when I’ve been asked
                                                            that  question  before,  by  yourself  or  other

                                                            journalists or broadcasters and they say, do you
                                                            like listening to yourself, Ritchie? I say absolutely
                                                            because I'm making the music that I would go out
                                                            and  buy  myself.  I  mean,  I  love  listening  to
                                                            everything from Led Zeppelin to Aerosmith, to
                                                            The Black Crowes, to The Beatles, to Queen. To
                                                            the original blues guys, and I’m making the sort
                                                            of riffs and music that I would personally want to
                                                            buy myself and listen to. So yes, I do like listening
                                                            to my own records. I just think if you don't like
                                                            your own music then what's the point making it?

                                                            DS:  Yeah, yeah.

                                                            BiTS:  Yes, well, I can understand that. Yeah, I can
                                                            understand that. I really was meaning whether
                                                            you like the sound of your own voice.

                                                            DS:  Well, I think so, yes. I mean, I just hope that
                                                            everybody else does. You know, I mean certainly
     in terms of writing songs, for me to write anything, I have to believe in it myself, and a lot of what
     I've written, particularly the earlier music, a lot of the earlier songs that I wrote were based on
     past experiences and are very much from the heart. So I have a lot of material to write about that

     came quite naturally, like, for example, ‘Broken Dreams’, which was actually a factual thing based
     on a previous relationship. I always find sometimes that if we perform that one at gigs, I'm
     thinking, oh, I'd rather forget that part of my past, do you know what I mean? But having said
     that, it provided me with valuable material to sort of write about, and for me in terms of writing
     a song, it has to be instant because, in other words, if I have to agonise over it, then it sort of
     wouldn't work, if that makes sense. So I don't spend hours on end working out what lyric will
     go with this, it's sort of all done at the same time and it has to be pretty instant because if I have
     to think about it too much then it wouldn't work. Then I think it would become hard work. It has
     to be pretty instant and then, as I say, whatever I write, I have to believe in and I have to believe
     that other people are going to enjoy it, or at least hopefully they are.

     BiTS:  Yes, yes, I can understand that. I spoke to a musician, I won't mention his name, some time
     ago, he is a songwriter who said that he threw away at least two thirds of what he wrote.
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