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Sefer Chafetz Chayim                                                                    םייח ץפח רפס                                                                                                                            4 VOL-4
                                   Hilchot Esurei Rechilut                                                              תוליכר ירוסיא תוכלה
                                    Kelal Alef  -  Halachah 3                                                              א הכלה -  א ללכ


                to violate the Torah’s Lav of “Do not peddle gossip.”  Resh Lakish holds
                (the text of the verdict reads) “so-and-so are the judges who decided this
                litigant was the winner and so-and-so is the judge who dissented and said
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                this litigant is the loser,” even though at the time the justices wrote their                    *תוּליכרְ ירֵוּסִּא תוֹכלִה
                verdict they had no intent to gossip about the judge who held the litigant
                liable, still, this situation is not at all comparable to the case described in the
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                Mishnah which uses the expression “but what else could I have done,” as                                     'א ללכּ
                the P’nei Moshe explains in his commentary on the Yerushalmi (3  perek,
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                10  halacha, “Mar’eh HaPanim,” commentary beginning with the word
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                “Said”). Still, Rebbe Yochanan holds to his opinion, against the opinion of              תֶמֱא לַע וּלּפֲאו ,תוּליכרְ רוּפּס רוּסִּא רַאֹבי הז ללכבּ
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                Resh Lakish, that saying any more than “Zakai” becomes gossip.
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                                                                                                         דָחֶא  םִא  ביִשָׁהלּ  הַמוּ  ,תוּליכרְ  ארָקְנּ  הַמוּ  ,רוּמגּ
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                Yet a further proof comes from Gemara Shabbat (33b)  relating the incident
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                involving Yehudah Ben Garim who repeated what he saw and heard, etc.                     יֵטרָפּ  רָאְשׁ  לכו  ,יַתוֹדוֹא  ינוֹלפּ  רֵבּדּ  הַמ  :וֹלֲאוֹשׁ
                (Please  see  Rashi’s  commentary  there).    In  that  incident Yehudah  Ben                         .םיפיִעס א"י וֹבוּ ,רוּסִּאָה
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                Garim had no intention, G-d forbid, to shame Rebbe Shimon Bar Yochai,
                since Yehudah Ben Garim was a great man, a prestigious person, as the
                Tosafot explain in that reference.  Please study carefully the Maharsha’s                                     ה"הגה
                commentary on that citation (Chidushei Agadot, citation beginning with                     םָתוֹא דֹמלִל םיִלוֹכי וּנייה וֹז הכלהבּ םינידּ המּכֶּשׁ ףא *
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                the words “How many”) that Rebbe Yehudah Elaei did not disagree with
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                Rebbe Shimon Bar Yochai.   Similarly, Rebbe Yossi seems to concur with                     ,ערָה ןוֹשׁל רוּסִּא תוֹכלִה איִהֶשׁ ,הנוֹשׁארִ הכלהֵמ םמצעֵמ
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                him even though he was afraid to openly express that same sentiment.                       המּכּ ינְפִּמ שׁוּרפבּ םוּנרְאבוּ הז לע וּנכמס אלֹ ןכ יִפּ לע ףא
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                Therefore if everyone who was part of that conversation concurred, most
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                certainly Yehudah Ben Garim did not disagree with that sentiment.  For                             .המדּקְהה ףוֹסבּ וּנבַתכֶּשׁ וֹמכּ ,םיִמעְט
                although he was prestigious, nevertheless he was their student and still he
                is considered a gossip in repeating what he heard (because of the harm it
                caused his teachers) and from the fact of his subsequent punishment, since           .בא ט"י ,ןסינ 'ט ,ולסכ ט"כ* - תרבועמ הנש    .בא ג"כ ,ןסינ ג"כ ,ולסכ ג"כ - הטושפ הנש :ימוי חול
                Rebbe Shimon Bar Yochai turned him into pile of bones.                                       .'ל םוי לש דומילה תא םג ט"כ םויב םידמול ,םימי ט"כ קר ןושח שדוחב שי םא *
                And do not try to contend against this concept by arguing that the incident
                involving Yehudah Ben Garim was not relevant to Lashon Hara because                                         םייחה רוקמ
                that contention is wrong since the Rambam also used this incident to learn
                                                                                                     אלֹ" :רמאנֶּשׁ ,הֶשֲׂעַת אלֹבּ רבוֹע וֹרבחבּ לגּרְַמה )א( .א
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                    The Gemara Shabbat (33b) is illustrating an example of Lashon Hara: Rebbe        תוֹשׁפנ גרֹהל םרֵוֹגו ,אוּה לוֹדגּ ןוֹעו "ךָימּעבּ ליִכרָ ךְלֵת
                    Yehudah,	 Rebbe	 Yossi	 and	 Rebbe	 Shimon	 Bar	 Yochai	 were	 in	 discussion.	 	   ."ךָערֵ םדּ לע דֹמֲעַת אלֹ" :וֹל ךְמסנ ךְכל ,לארְָשׂיִּמ תוֹבּרַ
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                    Rebbe	Yehudah	(seemingly)	praised	the	civil	engineering	accomplishments
                    of	the	Romans.		Rebbe	Yossi	remained	silent	but	Rebbe	Shimon	Bar	Yochai	         הגרְהנֶּשׁ ,יִמוֹדאה גאוֹדּ לֶשׁ וֹתוּליִכרְֵמ ערַא המ ,דמלוּ אצ
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                    criticized	the	Romans	for	the	monsters	that	they	were.		Yehudah	Ben	Garim
                    was	listening	to	this	discussion	and	mentioned	it	to	someone	in	his	household.
                    Eventually	 word	 of	 Rebbe	 Shimon	 Bar	 Yochai’s	 comment	 got	 back	 to	 the	  	  remarks	is	called	the	“listener”	or	the	“victim”	and	the	person	conveying
                    Roman	government	who	then	condemned	him	to	death.		Rebbe	Shimon	Bar                  those	remarks	to	the	“listener”	is	called	the	“speaker,”	the	“gossip”	or	the
                                                                                                         “reporter.”
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