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Sefer Chafetz Chayim                                                                   םייח ץפח רפס
                              Hilchot Esurei Lashon Hara                                                            ערה ןושל ירוסיא תוכלה
                                 Kelal  Beit  ‑  Halachah 1                                                              ב הכלה -  ב ללכ


             Please see in the referenced page of gemara (39b) the commentary of the                    עמשימל אכיאד םירבד וילע רמאש ול רפיס םא ךא
             Tosafot, the citation beginning with the words “does not contain any” where
             they explain that this rule of Rabbah Bar Rav Hunah permits one to speak                   הזב ןכ םג יולת אשיב אנשיל םושמ הרמא אלד
             Lashon Hara to a group of three people because inevitably “word will get                   רמול  שייבתמ  היהש  ןפואב  הרמוא  םא  ,ןורחאה
             out” and it is as if the remarks were made directly to the person who is
             the subject of those remarks which is permissible following the opinion                    ואל םאו ,רוסא ל"נה יול ונייהד ןושארה ינפב הז
             of Rebbe Yossi (Gemara Arachin 15b).  However, the Tosafot’s position                        .רתומ הז ןפואב אתלת יפאב ןידה אוהו .רתומ
             is very problematic!  For if the person is lying there is no question that he
             is considered to be a “rachil,” a gossip, even if the remarks are verbalized               םא ,הזב ןכ םג יולת תוליכרה לבקל ןידה אוהו
             to three people and even if they are spoken directly to the “victim” of the
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             Lashon Hara  (please see the following 1  Hagahah).  We see this from                      הז רמול שייבתמ היה אלו יאנג לש וניאש רבד אוה
             the Gemara Ketubot (46a) where the gemara asks “Where do we find in                        יכה ואלב לבא ,לבקל ןכ םג רתומ ןושארה ינפב
             the Torah a forewarning to a person who defames his wife?   (Answer)
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             (Vayikrah 19:16) “Do not go out peddling gossip in society” and in the                     ומכו אתלת יפאב רפיסש ףא לבקל ןכ םג רוסא
             case described in the Torah where a man defamed his wife his remarks                       רוסא ינווג לכבד םיבותכהמ היאר הלעמל ונבתכש
             were made in front of a Beit Din, as the gemara describes (there on pages
             46a and 11b) “He came to the court.”  Also, the remarks were made in the                              .תוליכרו ערה ןושל לבקל
             presence of the “victim” as is explained by the Sifri in paragraph #235 in
             the commentary on the pasuk (Devarim 22:14) “and he said, I married this                   ךכ רחא רתומ אהיש 'סותה ירבד יפל וניצמ אל הנהו
             woman and she etc.”  From this we learn that his testimony can only be                     ףא ךכו ךכ ךילע רביד ינולפ וריבחל רפסלו ךליל
             given in her presence.  This concept is also stated by Rashi in Chumash
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             (Devarim 22:14).  (Please see the following 2  Hagahah).  Nevertheless                     .ם"בשר שוריפל ומכ אתלת יפאב רבדה עמש םא
             this speaker is called a “gossip.”  But even if what he said was truthful, we              ג"מסה לע וירואיבב אידהב ל"שרהמב יתאצמ ןכו
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             have already explained in the 1  Kelal (in the first notation of the Be’er
             Mayim Chayim) that all Authorities agree that Lashon Hara and Rechilut
             are forbidden even if the remarks are true.
                                                                                                   50  Translator’s  note  following  from  the  commentary  of  Rabbi  Binyamin
             Given that this is so, Tosafot’s understanding is very difficult, for why                Cohen  in  his  Sefer  Chelkat  Binyamin  on  Sefer  Chafetz  Chayim  (5764,
             would it be permissible to degrade “someone” in front of three people,                   Brooklyn, NY):  The Yerushalmi seems to hold (Sanhedrin 3rd perek, the
             especially since the Torah is so strict about the degradation of anyone?                 gemara on the 10th halacha) that each judge signs his individual opinion
             Why would you think to allow this degradation if it was in front of three                on the verdict, and here in this case there is a two-to-one majority verdict.
                                                                                                      The minority judge, in signing his dissenting opinion, is in fact speaking
             people?  In fact it is the exact opposite that is true!  The larger the audience         Rechilut against the majority judges in disclosing his opinion to the loser
             who hears these degrading remarks, the greater is the speaker’s sin.  This               of this case, as this loser will now bear complaints against the two majority
             is explicit in the Sifri in perashat Devarim (Devarim 1:1) “and what of                  judges.  According to Rebbe Yochanan, since it is forbidden for this minority
             Miryam who only made her remarks privately and they were “heard” only                    judge  to  sign  his  dissenting  opinion  against  the  majority  judges  even
                                                                                                      though	it	is	in	front	of	them,	so	too	there	is	no	leniency	of	speaking	Rechilut
                                                                                                      in	front	of	three	people.		Meaning,	the	leniency	of	“in	the	presence	of	three
              0  The Torah (Devarim 22:13-19) speaks about a man who defames his newly                people”	evolves	from	the	presumption	that	it	is	equivalent	to	making	those
                 wedded wife, saying that he did not find signs of virginity in her.  If he is        remarks directly to the victim.  But since we see here that it is forbidden to
                 found to be a liar he will receive lashes from the Beit Din and he must pay a        make	those	remarks	directly	to	the	victim,	then	there	is	no	leniency	here	of
                 monetary	penalty	of	 00	Shekalim	to	her	father.	                                     “in	the	presence	of	three	people.”



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