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We're at his table and we go through what we have to go through to learn what
we gotta learn and discuss what we have to discuss or brief for a flight.

Ivan: Okay.

Pete H: You can imagine a flight room. Just consider this, you come into a classroom and
instead of there being just students sitting at a table throughout a classroom,
there are students and instructors because there's 2-3 students sitting at a table

with the instructor and you don't necessarily fly with them at all times but he's
your assigned instructor. He's assigned to you for keeping up with things
administratively, he’s assigned to make sure that you're where you need to be or
whatever, and talking to you about….

Ivan: If I am – does he debrief you one on one, or you hear each other's feedback at
the same time.

Pete H: If he flies with us… we're both debriefing and hearing everything that everybody's
told.

So it's easy to hear anybody's debrief. When you’re just sitting in an open room at
a table or whatever. That’s that. – but anyway, the point that I was making with
my table mate is that he – there was no doubt that he was fighter qualified
because of his performance in his grade book and how he was doing.

And when it came to me, it was like, there was some question. So, this dude, the
flight commander while he's briefing me on my fighter qual or not, he said to me,
“Well, you seem like you’ right there on the fence as far as being fighter qualified
or whatever.” And ole Pete Hargrove’s question was then what do I need to do to
get on the right side of the fence? His answer was, “Keep doing what you're
doing.” And I said that’ll leave me on the fence.”

You know it was just bull****. It was bull****. Them not wanting to just f***ing
give it up, and – It is actually not funny at all, but do you even know why I bring
that up? It was because my table mate beat me to the table one day and, you
know, whoever walked in first you just grab each other’s grade books and bring
them on over to the table and you know be ready for the morning brief.

Well, he (table mate) has looked at our bubble sheets, for our grades on our
sorties. All right. On our flights. And he goes, “Pete, do you know that our grade