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And they were like, “…, is the disparity that f***** up?” “Yeah, it was.” There are
a lot of things that I was – I was probably a little bit too young to quite figure it out

right at the time. It was happening but as you look back you go, “Oh yeah, that
was one of those “pivotal moments,” when somebody was telling you, “We're not
going to encourage your movement and or advancement.” It was pretty wild.

It’s not like I’m proud about it but I'm telling what the damn reality was. I do feel
like a very fortunate fellow. And I'm also glad that I just I won’t tell myself “no” on
stuff. But you know what I mean. You got plenty of people saying, “How do you
go from a 135 to a fighter?

Well, it should have been a fighter to 135… The bottom line is that there was some
serious disrespect going on and it continues to.

Most of the brothers out there. I don't even know what’s going on anymore
because I’m a little bit out of the loop, but I can bet that if they are fighter qual,
they’re most likely coming back as instructors, period. That's the first way to slow
down the whole deal.

Ivan : I really appreciate your time…