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           Can you share more about your first experience in   How important are spiritual teachers in Tibetan
           Bodhgaya?                                          Buddhism?


           My first visit to Bodhgaya was a catapult; I perused an   The teacher is everything. The teacher is the living
           integrated path of Buddhist studies along with clinical   embodiment of the possibility of enlightenment in our
           psychology, and met a succession of teachers that   everyday life because the teacher is the living expression
           guided me along the way. On the Antioch Program I   of the dharma teachings. Otherwise, the principles are
           was fortunate to meet very good teachers. I was taught   just words in a book. The teacher is the living source of
           mindfulness and loving-kindness by the late Sri Lankan   refuge. Otherwise, there are only the worldly refuges of
           master Godwin Samararatna, and I took refuge with   fame and fortune which are temporary and unreliable. I
           the Tibetan master Chokyi Nyima Rinpoche under the   tell my students who are ambivalent or skeptical about
           Bodhi Tree. In a symbolic way that first trip to India   spiritual teachers that though one doesn’t necessarily
           was like coming home to a place where I had finally   need a guide, but it undoubtedly helps tremendously, in
           found meaning and purpose. In the years to come I   both mundane and spiritual pursuits. Of course, we can
           would return nine times, including as a teacher bringing   learn nearly everything on our own from a book or from
           my own students on pilgrimage to experience the life-  Youtube, but in order to learn correctly and efficiently,
           changing catalyst I had twenty years prior.        in a completely integrated or embodied way, having a
                                                              qualified guide teacher is indeed precious and beneficial.
           I understand you study and practice mainly in the   As Dharma practice is about mastering your own mind,
           Gelug tradition. How did this come about?          you need to find someone who has already developed

                                                              such good qualities and is capable of sharing the process
           In New York while I was studying for my Master’s   of mind training with you.
           degree, I met American Buddhist scholar Robert
           Thurman and Buddhist psychiatrist Joseph Loizzo and   Many of the great lamas have followed a tried-and-
           began what would become a very close mentorship    true path, and have made quantum leaps in their
           with them that has lasted over 20 years. Both of my   spiritual development. They have also become
           mentors were direct students of HH The Dalai Lama,   exceptional good hearted and wise human beings as a
           and both were preserving the Nalanda curriculum of   result of their training. Therefore, if we can develop a
           lam rim, lojong, and tantra. Thus, Gelugpa tradition   strong bond with them, follow their advice, and more
           became my lineage.                                 importantly internalize their way of being free, then
                                                              we can also experience their blessings and be inspired
           In 2006 I participated in a one-month Lam Rim retreat   in a positive way.
           at Kopan monastery, Nepal, where I took refuge and
           Bodhisattva vows with Lama Zopa Rinpoche. At that   We learnt much from a spiritual master like Lama
           retreat I also met my current master, Geshe Tenzin   Zopa Rinpoche when he was alive – what lessons did
           Zopa. By 2008 I had taken tantric initiation with the   he leave us when he passed away?
           late Gelek Rinpoche.
                                                              The first obvious lesson is the reality of impermanence.
           My lineage is Tibetan but looking back it was never a   We too shall die. The teachers’ death shows us that
           conscious choice. I was only following my heart along   nothing lasts. Life is over in the blink of an eye. It
           the bread crumb trail, and something else was leading   happens to everyone. We will lose everything in this
           me. This is why I think I had a past life connection   life, including all our possessions, friends, teachers, and
           with Dharma. It is very hard to understand how else I   even ourselves. But we don’t know when it will happen.
           would have made it to Bodhgaya so early in life, why it   We can change plans at the last minute to go up to
           made such an incredible impression, how I would be so   Rachen Nunnery in Tsum as Lama Zopa did, and before
           fortunate to find and work so closely with such qualified   we know it, he’s passed away.
           mentors, and how I would create a meaningful vocation
           to share Dharma with others.                       We can take the passing of a great lama as an opportunity
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