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           Benny Liow spoke with Dan and     Education (CPE). It is also known   Buddhists have been giving
           requested for a brief interview   as Clinical Pastoral Counselling and   chaplaincy support for close to
           based on his pioneering work on   has a number of training units. In   2,500 years. The word Chaplain
           Buddhist chaplaincy in Australia.    Buddhist chaplaincy, the support   has a long Christian heritage. It was
                                             we give is contemplative care.    once used to refer to representatives
           Benny: Can you share with us      This is a process of presence, deep   of the Christian faith, but now
           how you first became interested   listening and reflection. A chaplain   it’s applied to all traditions. The
           in Buddhism, and why you choose   helps to deepen one’s awareness of   Buddha himself instituted care
           to become a Buddhist chaplain?    attitudes, beliefs and assumptions,   and support for those in need into

                                             and it’s incredibly holistic and   the monastic order. In sending the
           Dan: My interest began not in     therapeutic. We are caregivers that   monks and nuns to walk through
           organized religion but in a spiritual   focus on mental, emotional and   India spreading the Dharma
           practice that could help me navigate   spiritual support to allow a person   they propagated the Buddhist
           suffering and trauma. Somehow, I   the breathing space to recognize   culture of compassion through the
           found this was wholly complete in   their potential for healing. The   world. It’s not just in the Vinaya
           Buddha Dharma and from the very   Buddhist Council of New South     teachings that the Buddha gave
           beginning felt that if I am going to   Wales offers Buddhist CPE training.   the practical instruction he gave
           put my energy into freedom from   Universities and teaching hospitals   the spiritual teachings throughout
           suffering by understanding my own   offer non-denominational CPE    the Buddha’s sutra teachings on
           mind, then I must find an outlet to   training programs.            the Four Immeasurables: loving-
           support others in doing the same.                                   kindness, compassion, gladness and
           Chaplaincy felt like the perfect fit.  Chaplaincy seems to be grounded   equanimity. We are told that these
                                             in compassion. Can we trace       sublime states are like the love a
           Where and how were you trained    the philosophy and context of     mother has for her only child and
           as a Buddhist chaplain?           Buddhist religious care to the    meditated to be universal. This, the
                                             Buddha himself?                   Buddha didn’t see as a separate part

           Becoming a chaplain in Australia                                    of the spiritual endeavour but at the
           requires training in Clinical Pastoral                              core of the path to liberation.
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