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prognosis is not very good.
                                                                                   raped or abused. You cannot
                                                            shaky. You still have armed
            times going up to even
  I.        can average  45°C,  some-  In Darfur, I must say the   authority so the situation is   their lives through being
                                                                                   expect young women and
                                   The situation has deteriorated
                                                            militia walking around with
            50°C.
                                                                                   mothers to continue to suffer
                                                            weapons. If there is no local
                                   over the last couple of
            Together with the other   months. We were more opti-  authority you do not have   in this way. I think that suffi-
            agencies, where we have   mistic in the middle of 2005   anybody to work or cooper-  cient pressure should be
            resources, we provide them   than we are today.   ate with. We cannot under-  placed on the different parties
            with shelter, and make sure                     take programming and bring   to reach an agreement and to
            that they have access to   For the rest of the country,   some relief to the region.   sign it.
            water, health services, edu-  we have to look at it situation
            cation for the children, etc.   by situation. Remember,   Q:  Do you personally   After that, we must help in the
            Our main service, however,   Sudan is as big as ten differ-  remain optimistic?   building of Sudanese society,
            is to make sure that they are   ent countries.                          infrastructure, systems and
            not moved to places where                       For the immediate future   capacities to ensure that the
            they do not have access to   In Eastern Sudan, for   and with respect to South   risk of armed conflict in
            these services—where they   instance, there has been some   Sudan I remain optimistic.   Sudan is minimised. Human
            are unable to look after   violence recently. This result-  For Darfur we will have to   Rights although a cliché - is
            themselves.            ed in more insecurity con-  wait and see - but certainly   a sine qua non for this to hap-
                                   tributing to a potential for a   the Sudanese parties have it   pen. No population or regions
            We are not responsible for   larger crisis. Hopefully, this   in their power to come to   should be marginalized.
            looking after the popula-  will be peacefully and effec-  agreement. Obviously, we   Eastern Sudan is among the
            tion—that is the task of the   tively resolved.   can only hope and to contin-  poorest areas in Africa - it
            government. People should                       ue to pray that this becomes   should be and is a priority for
            have the means to look after   In South Sudan there has   a reality assisting the vul-  support. If people feel mar-
            themselves. Our job is to   been progress after the Peace   nerable where we can   ginalized, the risk that they
            make sure that the govern-  Agreement. There is opti-  throughout this period. The   take up arms increases.
            ment accepts this responsi-  mism; people are free to   problem is that the belliger-
            bility and then carries it out.   move around, there is more   ents may continue the status   I know that your readership
                                   security. Optimism is a posi-  quo, but at the end of the day   includes a lot of UN staff, and
            Q:  How do You cope with   tive sign as it helps people to   the people who are suffering   if there is something I would
            seeing all the suffering   start long-term planning and   the most are the civilians.   like to stress it is this: We join
            among the people?      to have a vision about their   We have to make sure that   the UN because of the cause
                                   future. Some IDPs are return-  there is a strong political   more than the job. This is
            It is difficult. I think empa-  ing home—not in great num-  agreement; otherwise you   probably more evident here in
            thy is very important. This   bers because the situation   will have 3 million vulnera-  the field when you are closer
            is not a 9-to-5 job. Here,   there remains tense. South   ble people in Darfur who   to those you are trying to help
            everybody is working long   Sudan is not like Khartoum.   will continue to  suffer.  We   than at headquarters. Here the
            hours, at least twelve hours   They do not have anything—  do not want the situation in   staff work and live in difficult
            a day. Some staff members   there is no water, a very poor   Darfur to be like the situa-  conditions in the middle of
            work even longer, and often   health situation, no school-  tion in South Sudan where   the bush, sleeping in tents.
            on our weekends. On    ing. You may have the worst   IDPs have existed for more   There are mosquitoes; snakes,
            Thursday and Friday (which   indicators in the whole of   than twenty years—the war   no electricity, problems with
            is our Saturday and Sunday)   Africa. So people have to   between the North and the   water etc. They stay there for
            you will find many in the   consider the situation when   South started there in 1983.   six or twelve months at a
            office working. The conse-  they move back home with   These people must have the   time.
            quences are stress, fatigue,   their families.   possibility of returning
            exasperation - however,                         home in security and safety.   This is the best way to under-
            empathy helps us to under-  And then you have situations                stand the mission and the val-
            stand the desperate plight of   like Abyei, which is a transi-  Q: fft'ou have a ,nessagefbr   ues of the United Nations. I
            vulnerable Sudanese and   tion area. It is a unique situa-  the international communi-  would urge people working
            carry us through knowing   tion within the CPA. There   what would it he?   in the headquarters to spend
            that if we manage to help   has been a Commission to                    some time working in the
            even one family we can   look at the border of Abyei,   I would say today—Darfur   field to see more of what the
            make a small difference.   and we await a decree to   first. You have to make sure   UN is all about.
                                   decide which part belongs to   that there is an agreement, as
            Q:  What do think will hap-  the South and which part to   there are far too many peo-  There is a very deep, reward-
            pen in the coming months?   the North. The report of the   ple who have lost every-  ing feeling to be working
            Is O('HA going to reduce or   Commission is under review   thing. In the camps there are   here.
            increase its presence here?   right now.        mainly women and children.
            What are your  .feelings                        Every time they go out to
            about the whole situation?   In Abyei there is no local   fetch firewood, they risk


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