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FACE TO FACE  |  EASTERN HORIZON     23







           Benny: What was your first encounter Buddhism,     From my perspective there are many Buddhist
           and what made you choose to be a Buddhist scholar   teachings pertinent for facing the fear of planetary crisis
           and teacher?                                       and working to repair it. Teachings on the dangers of
                                                              desire and greed give us a starting point to reflect on
           Karen: I grew up in Hawaii which is a multi-cultural   the egocentric emotions and the consequences of those
           and multi-religious state. I saw Buddhist shrines in   grasping misunderstanding of the self and all reality.
           my Japanese American friends’ homes; I was invited   In his book, The Heart is Noble (Shambhala, 2014), the
           to O-Bon dances at Jodo Shinshu Hongwanji temples,   Karmapa urges all of us living in capitalistic societies to
           and had meditation practice at Zen temples with my   be careful in differentiating between wants and needs
           parents who were culturally and religiously Jewish   and to live by the latter. If we live with a commitment
           but also spiritually open and curious. I encountered   to consuming only what we need to live there will
           the academic study of Buddhism as an undergraduate   be enough for all living things in our ultimate web of
           student and I also studied amongst Buddhists on a   interconnections to live with joy, and not suffering.
           study-abroad Tibetan Studies program in Kathmandu,
           Nepal. I learned Buddhist stories and different ways   The word Sangha means community, and in
           of reading them while in Nepal. I brought those    Buddhism it comprises of like-minded people with
           approaches into my PhD studies at Harvard University   a common purpose. Is it realistic to think of a global
           and narratives continues to be my academic and     society with people from different religions and
           personal passion.                                  political persuasions living together in peace and
                                                              harmony?
           You have the rare opportunity to work with
           His Holiness the 17  Karmapa on his book           Yes, Buddhism teaches me this is a possibility based
                             th
           “Interconnected” (Wisdom: 2018). What was the      on the foundational premises that we don’t all have to
           main message from His Holiness on how we can all   be like-minded. However, we have to be open minded
           live in an inter-connected manner?                 to the possibility of a multiplicity of truths and a

                                                              multiplicity of paths. Secondly, happiness and joy is
           To me, the Karmapa urges us to move beyond an      not a zero-sum game. I believe the greater we work
           intellectual understanding of our interconnectedness to   on the conditions for peace, joy, and happiness to be
           feeling those connections, both bodily and in our hearts.   available FOR ALL BEINGs, we ourselves will strengthen
           The emotional experience of our interconnections   the presence of those same positive conditions for
           can inspire us to move from understanding our inter-  ourselves.
           connectedness to the goal of sustained action to
           alleviate the suffering of all living things to whom we   On one hand Buddhism teaches that we are all inter
           are connected, including the planet. Reaching the final   connected to one another and therefore should have
           goal of sustained action is one of the most important   love and compassion; yet Buddhism also tells us to
           messages in the book. Environmental problems are so   be non-attached. Isn’t this a contradiction?
           large that people are easily daunted. When we feel our
           interconnections, giving up is not an option.      I am asked this question frequently by my students
                                                              at the university where I am a Professor of Religious
           A major problem in our interconnected world today   Studies. To explore this seemingly contradictory
           is environmental degradation. While this may not   teachings, we must understand the foundational
           be an issue during the Buddha’s time, are there    Buddhist teaching of impermanence. that is, because
           lessons from the Buddha’s teaching that can help us   all things are made up of a myriad of conditions
           overcome it?                                       outside of themselves all things change; That is true
                                                              for individual as well as the relationships between
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