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50      The  National  Supply  and  Machinery  Dealers’  Association

                             M r.  M a r s h a l l :   Was  not  it  your  understanding  in  Cin­
                        cinnati  that  that  was  to be  a  twelve  and  a  half  per  cent  discount?

                             Mr.  P r e n t i s s :  No;  twelve  and  a  half  per  cent  above  cost.
                        We  tried  to  get  it,  but  they  would  not  assent  to  it.  We  tried
                        hard  for  what  we  wanted,  and  worked  all  day  on  it.
                             M r.  M a r s h a l l :  1  believe  that  as  that  Committee  had
                        agreed  in  Cincinnati  to  twelve  and  a  half  per  cent  margin,  or
                        whichever  way  it  is,  we  ought  to  back  up  that  Committee,  and
                        I  would  like  to  make  what  Mr.  Drury  said  an  amendment  to  the
                        motion  already  before  the  house.
                             P r e sid e n t  S trong :  The  motion  before  the  house  has  no
                        second.
                             M r.  M a r s h a l l :  Mr.  Drury’s  suggestion  was  that  we  put
                        it  in  a  diplomatic  way  before  the  Committee  that  they  had  given
                        us  advice  as  to  the  first  and  second  clauses,  and  we  would  like  to
                        have  advice  on  the  third.
                             M r.  C olco rd:  That  was  twelve  and  a  half  per  cent  added
                        to  the  cost,  because  we  could  not  get  more.  The  Committee  first
                        held  out  for  fifteen  per  cent  discount,  and  then  they  came  down
                        to  twelve  and  a  half.  None  of  them  were  satisfied,  and  when  it
                        was  shown  to  Mr.  Marshall,  or  to  Mr.  Reed,  that  it  was  seventy-
                        five  per  cent  in  the  net  profits,  they  accepted  it.

                             M r.  P r e n t i s s :  I  saw  Mr.  Geier  in  New  York  last  week—
                        many  of  you  who  have  known  him  know  that  he  is  a  level
                        headed  fellow,  and  a  pretty  determined  man,  and  that  when  he
                        sets  out  to  do  a  thing  he  is  very  apt  to  do it.  He  said  “I  am  not
                        satisfied  with  the  way  this  has  been  handled  by  the  National
                        Machine  Tool  Builders’  Association,  and  I  will  have  it  brought
                        up  in  a  satisfactory  way.  I  feel when  they understand  it  they  will
                        accept  it,  and  I,  for  one,  shall  use  all  the  effort  I  possess  to  have
                        it  come  before  them  in  the proper  way  as  soon  as  possible.”

                              M r.  B rion :  We  do  not  seem  to  be  making  much  headway
                        on  this  subject,  and  I  would  like  to  see  this  matter  referred  to  a
                         Committee  so  we  could  go  ahead  with  other  business.  I  think
                        a  Committee  of  five,  including  the  Machinery  Committee,  could
                         do  more  with  it  than  we  as  a  body.  They  could  have  this  even­
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