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                                            The role I had with the CEFC has led   operated strictly to this and held its
                                            me towards my current role at Sentient   ground with a fully independent board.
                                            Impact Group where I am establishing   It was also illegal under our act for any
                                            a large impact investment group that   public servant to sit on the board, so
                                            will be like the CEFC – we will finance   the government could not do what they
                                            projects that reduce emissions but we   did to the Climate Change Authority or
                                            will also fund projects that protect   what they keep doing to the Northern
                                            biodiversity and create greater social   Australia Infrastructure Facility.
                                            equality. For too long investors have
                                            measured their return in terms of   We also took precautionary action.
                                            percentage earned. It is time for people   The way the government basically
                                            to realise that you can achieve the same   abolished the Climate Change Authority
                                            return but also, by being thoughtful   was to place a public servant (who
                                            about how the capital is applied, you   is indemnified by the government
                                            can generate positive externalities rather   should they fail to meet their statutory
                                            than negative externalities. I am keen   obligation) in the role of CEO and get
                                            that people learn to expect that every   them to slash all the staff so it basically
          Recently Dr Powell interviewed    investment they make must improve   can’t operate. The government also
                                                                             removed all the funding, so it did not
                                            the environment and create greater
          Oliver Yates (1985) about his     equality – or understand that it is a dud   have the capital to keep running.
          thoughts on the environment.      investment because the return they get   They could not do that with the CEFC
          As former Head of the Clean       does damage and therefore is not a    as, before the Liberal government
          Energy Finance Corporation (and   real return.                     came into office, we called over
          now CEO of the Sentient Impact      What were the biggest challenges of   $1 billion in capital so they could
                                                                             not defund the organisation and, as
          Group), Mr Yates here offers a    the role at CEFC, and did you find any   I have explained, they could not get
          distinctive perspective.          unlikely allies?                 an indemnified public servant on the
                                                                             board or in employment at the CEFC.
          In your previous role as Head of the   The biggest challenge I had was the   It is quite extraordinary the methods
          CEFC, you worked at the coal face (no   persistent attacks from the Liberal   a government will use to cripple a
          pun intended) of political, economic,   government of the day that tried   statutory authority that it doesn’t
          and technological activity responding   almost every trick in the book to   like, including actively constructing
          to our changing climate. Did the   damage and abolish the organisation.   arrangements that enable the Authority
          experience leave you optimistic or   It attempted twice to destroy the CEFC   to ignore its statutory responsibility by
          pessimistic about Australia’s response?  by passing legislation in the House of   inserting an indemnified public servant
                                            Representatives to see it abolished, but   to do the deed.
          It left me optimistic that a government   each time it failed to pass in the Senate    
          could create and structure an agency that   where Independents and small parties   If you were to provide the guidelines
          was able to achieve significant public   like the Palmer United party voted   for Australian climate policy over the
          policy outcomes without costing the   against the government to stop the   next decade, what would it look like?
          taxpayer money.                   abolition occurring.
          Far too often we see massive public                                I would restore funding to the Climate
          waste as grants programs are used instead  Many would think that Clive Palmer   Change Authority and have it work
          of loan programs. A grant is effectively   was an unlikely ally, but he is actually   with the Productivity Commission to
          a 100% immediately written-off loan   a sensible businessman and he could   develop a climate policy that is safe
          and most of the time that does not drive   see that the CEFC was creating positive   and economically sensible. Unlike
          change. Grants distort the market. In the   change at no cost and was actually   the current policy of the government,
          case of clean energy, grants can actually   making money. Clive supported the   it would involve a national carbon
          hamper investment and the transition to a  concept of development banks as a way   budget. I would also support the
          clean energy future.              to accelerate business investment.   imposition of a carbon border
                                                                             adjustment, so that Australian firms
          If you look across all programs of   One of the best features of the CEFC   remain competitive in international
          government internationally and    was the structure by which it was   markets. This adjustment would impose
          domestically, the CEFC stands out as   established which made ministerial   charges on imports from countries
          a clear leading example of how to   intervention into decision-making illegal,   that are not being carbon responsible
          accelerate the investment in renewables   except through mandate changes. Any   and give credits on export if we are
          efficiently and effectively. Currently,   mandate changes had to be consistent   exporting to a country that is not
          the CEFC is the largest Green Bank in   with the Act and our statutory obligation   carbon responsible.
          operation. Historically, Australia had both  as statutory officers which was to    
          national and state-based development   invest to reduce emissions.  Unlike far
          banks. They were all closed for various   too many Authorities today, the CEFC
          reasons.
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