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D Yes, I am. BERNIE You don't have to go to college, but
J I'd love to play the piano. you have to do a special course. The good -33
D Have you got a piano? thing is, you don't have to pay very much for She's looking for her first job. I She goes
J Um, no. the course. But it's a lot of work. A referee online every day. I She's doing some
D Well, that is a bit of a problem ... has to know everything about the laws of the cleaning. I She needs a real job. I I'm writing
LG Mi·> 2.2 & 23 game. to tell you how it feels. I I'm ap~lying for
every job I can. I I never g~t an mterview. I
JACKIE Hi, are you Kevin? -30 People think I'm too old.
KEVIN Yes. Are you Jackie or Penny? 2 We have a lot of training. (x2) 3 I have to -34
1 They have to study for a long time. (x2)
J Jackie.
K Yes, of course, I'm meeting Penny later. work at home a lot. (x2) 4 You don't have INTERVIEWER Paul, your new bookjs~a
J Ah, right .... I'm sorry I'm late. I was to go to university. (x2) 5 I have to have a collection~otarticles~about people
looking after my sister's children. degree. (x2) 6 We don't have any exams. (x2) with strange jobs. So we're not
K Oh, do you like kids then? -31 talkiqgjlbOut~actors, sales~assistants~or
J Yes. I love looking after children. cleaners.
K Oh, I don't. I never want to have kids. You have to / hreft;:i/ do a special course. I PAUL No, all the peopl0n the book have
J Oh, well. You hhe to / hreft;:i/ have a degrl e in very unusual jobs.
K I prefer animals. I love dogs. I Can you giv~us som~examples?
languages. I You don't have to /hreft;:i/ pay
J Yes, so do I. very much. I You don't have to / hreft;:i/ go to P Well, when furniture companies want to
K Good, that's one thing we have in mak~improvements to their products,
university. I She has to /hrest;:i/ study for four
common, then. they employ people to test their furniture.
years. I He doesn't have to / hreft;:i/ pay for
J I've got a dog and three cats. These people spend their working day
it. 11 had to /hredt;:i/ study a lot. I He didn't
K Oh, I don't like cats. Oh, OK ... so what lyin_g_pn beds~or sittiqg_pn chairs.
have to / hreft;:i/ go to college.
else? I'm quite sporty. I What~a great job!
J Oh, I'm not. I didn't do much sport 32 P Not really. Sometimes they have to sitjn
at school. the same chair~or lie on the same bed
RICK You usually have to speak two or
K Oh, I did. more foreign languages to do an interpreting forJ:!ours~and hours. Then they have to
J But I'm quite a good tennis player. answer lots~of questions.
course. And you usually have to have a
K Oh, I'm not. I hate the game. I prefer I OK, that doesn't sound very exciting.
degree in languages. At the beginning of the
dangerous sports. P Then therLare fortune cookie writers.
course you have to learn to listen and speak
J Well, I also do judo. You know, the fortune cookies that you
at the same time. At first you do this in your
K Oh, so do It Maybe we can have a match own language. I had to listen to the news getjn Chinese restaurants.
sometime. Oh, I'm sorry. Do you want a I Ye0 know what you mean.
in English and immediately repeat the same
coffee? P Well, someone has to write those.
words in English. Then I had to interpret
J Yes, please. www.english0905.com I Of course.
the news from other languages into English.
K Or do you want to go somewhere for P For~example, the Wanton company in
The training is stressful and the work is
a burger? New York makes four~and~a half million
too. But now I have a job I love. I work at
J No, I'm not hungry, thanks. cookies~a day!
international conferences and I can interpret
K Oh,Iam. I That's~unbelievable.
six different languages. It's impossible for
J And anyway I'm a vegetarian. I don't eat P Ye0t)0sn'tjt? One fortune
one person to interpret for more than half an
meat. cookie writer told me he takes~a
hour, so we have to work in pairs and take
K Oh, I do. I love meat. notebooksverywhere he goes. So when
turns every 30 minutes. And in that time we
J Well, you're meeting Penny later. Perhaps he has~anjdea he can wri~t down. And
have to interpret about 4,000 words. But of
she'll have a burger with you ... he has to thinkjn sentences~of 10 words
course, we can't interpret if people forget to
because you can~only fit 10 words~on the
-25 turn on their microphones - and sometimes
they do forget! bits~of paper.
I'm not married. I I'm really hungry. I I don't I Right.
watch TV very often. I I usually get up before LORNA You don't have to go to university to P And~anotherjnteresting thing, fortune
become a paramedic. I didn't, I just joined the
seven. I I didn't study English last year. I cookies~aren't Chinese. They startedjn
ambulance service. I had to study a lot and
I stayed at home last night. do on-the-job training for three years. But I Japanjn the nineteenth century.
&21 didn't have to pay for it - the government did. Apparently they don't have themjn China.
I Oh, really? I thought the idea came from
ANSWERS 2b 3a 4b Sb 6a It's a great job, but the training's hard. You China. So, what do you thinkjs the
have to know everything about the human
&2a body. For example, a paramedic has to learn most~unusual job?
P Well, what~about~a golf ball diver?
RICK You usually have to speak two or the names of all the different bones in the
I A what?
more foreign languages to do an interpreting body - and there are 206 of them! And of P A golf ball diver. Golfers~often lose golf
course. And you usually have to have a degree course, we have to be excellent drivers - we
ballsjn lakes, so golf ball divers div..£_jnto
in languages. At the beginning of the course have a lot of training for that. But the main the lakes to look for the balls.
you have to learn to listen and speak at the thing is we have to stay calm in an emergency.
I And what do they do with the balls
same time. At first you do this in your own Like the call we had yesterday. We had to they find?
language. help a man who fell off a roof. That was a
P They clean them~and sell them. In the UK
LORNA You don't have to go to university to real emergency. But about 8 out of every 10
golfers losubout 20 million balls~a year.
become a paramedic. I didn't, I just joined the phone calls we get aren't emergencies at all.
I 20 million! That's~amazing, but ye0
ambulance service. I had to study a lot and Some people call an ambulance when they
can believ..£_jt. I lose hundreds~and they
do on-the-job training for three years. But I should just take an aspirin and go to bed.
cost~about £3 each. Maybe thisjs~a job
didn't have to pay for it - the government did. for my son. Thank you for comin_gjn to
It's a great job, but the training's hard.
the studio today, Paul.