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        M  OK, next question. Do youJw/~ever              so why aren't universities? That's why    91
           studyJj!~or work with the TVJj/~on?            we pay our taxes, isn't it? I think all
                                                                                                    INTERVIEWER  Today my guest is Dr
        T  No, never. You knowJw!~I can't work if         education should be free.
           there's any noise.                         M  I'm not sure about that. Everyone knows        Andrew Scott, who is the author of
        M  And question 4. Have you got a TVJ j/)n        graduates get better jobs, which means        a new book called Our Future - the
           your bedroom orJ r/)n the kitchen?             they get higher salaries. So I think they     Earth in 2030. Dr Scott, welcome to the
        T  No._Jw!) haven't - you know that.              should pay something for their education.     programme.
        M  Right. Question 5. Do youJw/~always        C  I'm sorry, I don't agree. We didn't have to   DR SCOTT  Thank you.
           have to have the remote control?               pay university fees, Matt, so why should   I   Dr Scott, what will our world be like in
        T  Er ... yes, I doJw/~actually.                  Amy?                                          2030?
        M  Yes, most of the men I knowJ wc always     M  That's true. But we were at university a   S  Well, first of all, I think our planet will
           have to have the remote.                       long time ago.                                be very crowded. The world population is
                                                                                                        increasing by nearly 10,000 people every
        T  Oh, I don't knowJw/~about that. I spend    B  Yeah, about fifty years ago, wasn't it?
           most of my time looking forJ r/)t!         M  Not quite that long. And anyway, there         hour, or about 220,000 people every day!
                                                                                                        This means that in 2030 there'll be about
        M  Yes, that's true. OK, on to the next           are a lot more people at university now.
                                                                                                        8.2 billion people living on this planet.
           question. Do youJ w/_,ever have               The government can't afford to pay for
           dinnerJ r/)n front of the TV?                 everyone.                                  I   That's incredible.
                                                                                                    S  Yes, it is. Especially when you think that
        T  If I'm on myJj!~own, then yes, of course I   J  Maybe you're right. But I think they
           do. Doesn't everyone?                         should pay for people who can't afford to      in 1930, the world population was only
        M  Hmm, you're not doing very well, are          go to university.                              about 2 billion.
           you? Question 7. Do youJw/~often           C  What about you, Ben? Do you think          I   Where will all these people live?
           download TV programmes or watch               students should pay?                       S  We think that about 60% of people will
                                                                                                        live in Africa and Asia, and in 2030 India
           them online?                               B  No, definitely not. The government can
        T  Well, I don't download programmes             always find ways to pay for wars or to         will have a bigger population than China.
           veryJj/~often, but I watch a lot of           help the banks, so why can't they afford   I   Really?
           programmes online. You know, when I'm         to pay for our education system?           S  Yes, and cities will be a lot bigger. We
           away from home orJ r/)n a hotel.           A  Exactly.                                       might have 100 cities with populations of
       M  So that's a yes. OK, last one. Have         C  So you're saying that universities are only    over 20 million.
           youJ wc ever missed something important       for rich people these days.                I   And of course all these people will need
                                                                                                        food, water, energy and a place to live.
           because you wanted to watch TV?            B  Um, yes. I think so. Rich parents will
                                                                                                    S  Yes, absolutely. And that's the problem.
       T  Yes. Once. A few years agoJ w/) didn't         always send their kids to university. But
           go tOJw/~a friend's wedding because I         most young people don't want to be             It won't be easy to produce food for
           wanted to watch a football match.             thousands of pounds in debt at the end of      everybody. And as I'm sure you know,
                                                                                                        global warming is already changing our
       M  Tim!!                                          their course.
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       T  But it was the World Cup Final!             C  What do you think, Amy? Do you agree           climate. And by 2030, some countries
       M  Right. And that's mor~.fr!)mportant            with that?                                     won't have enough water for people to
                                                                                                        drink.
           than a wedding, is it?                     A  Yes, definitely. Most of my friends from
       T  Oh. DOJw!~I really have tOJw/~answer           school haven't gone to university because   I   Oh, it sounds a very depressing picture.
                                                                                                        Is it too late to do anything about it?
                                                         their families can't afford it.
           that? So, how did I do?                    M  Well, they can always get student loans.   s  No, not at all. There are a lot of things we
       M  Well, you get one point forJr/~each tick,
       -47                                               And they don't have to start paying any of     can do, but we have to do them quickly.
           so that's ... er ... let's see ...
                                                                                                        Firstly, we need to use less oil and gas,
                                                         the money back until they leave university
                                                                                                        the good news is that we're producing
       exciting, excited I relaxing, relaxed I tiring,   and get a good job. So maybe you should        because this causes global warming. But
                                                         get a student loan, Amy.
       tired I boring, bored I interesting, interested I   A  No, I don't think so. I don't want to finish   more and more green energy, and this will
       surprising, surprised I frightening, frightened I   university and find that I'm £40,000 in      be very important in 2030.
                                                                                                    I   What else can we do?
       annoying, annoyed I worrying, worried             debt. I'd rather carry on working at the
                                                                                                    s  Well, we also need to protect the
                                                         restaurant.
       '1'·'i•>4 -48                                  B  Yeah, I can understand that. I started        rainforests, because they help to stop
       JACKIE  Mmm, that was lovely.                     work at 16 and I've done OK. You don't        climate change.
                                                                                                    I   OK.
       AMY  Yes, that was really delicious.              need to be a graduate to get a good job.
                                                                                                    S  And of course the other thing people
           Thanks, Carol.                            J  That's true. I didn't go to university
       CAROL  I'm glad you enjoyed it, but I didn't      either. But then, I did fail most of my       can do is not have so many children. It's
                                                                                                       the enormous increase in population
           do it all. Matt helped too.                   exams at school ...
                                                                                                       that's causing the problem. But whatever
       MATT  Well, I only did the vegetables.         C  OK - so, who wants some dessert? ...
       C  And he's going to do all the washing-up.   &s1                                               happens, life in 2030 will be very
       M  Oh, am I? That's news to me!                                                                 different for billions of people.
                                                                                                       Dr Scott, thank you for joining us today ...
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       BEN  So, Amy, I hear you want to go to        / re/  plan I actor I chat                     -3
           university next year.                     /er/  plane I date I game
       A  Well, I'm not sure I do now. The fees      /1/  bit I slim I written
                                                                                                    ANSWERS  2 They'll  3 We  4 I'll  5 won't
           are really high and I can't afford it. And   /ar/  bite I realise I write
                                                                                                       6 want to
           anyway, I don't think I should have to    / o/  hot I shot I stop                        -4
           pay. I think university should be free for   /<Ju/ bone I smoke I wrote
           everybody.
                                                                                                    1  In 2030 ... well, I'll probably be married.
       B  Hmm. Well, that's one way of looking at
                                                                                                    And I want to have children, but I only
           it. What do you think, Jackie?            flat I postcode I swim I exercise I cost I
       J  I agree with Amy. Schools are free,        decide I decision I place I phone              want girls. I don't like boys very much,
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