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M OK, next question. Do youJw/~ever so why aren't universities? That's why 91
studyJj!~or work with the TVJj/~on? we pay our taxes, isn't it? I think all
INTERVIEWER Today my guest is Dr
T No, never. You knowJw!~I can't work if education should be free.
there's any noise. M I'm not sure about that. Everyone knows Andrew Scott, who is the author of
M And question 4. Have you got a TVJ j/)n graduates get better jobs, which means a new book called Our Future - the
your bedroom orJ r/)n the kitchen? they get higher salaries. So I think they Earth in 2030. Dr Scott, welcome to the
T No._Jw!) haven't - you know that. should pay something for their education. programme.
M Right. Question 5. Do youJw/~always C I'm sorry, I don't agree. We didn't have to DR SCOTT Thank you.
have to have the remote control? pay university fees, Matt, so why should I Dr Scott, what will our world be like in
T Er ... yes, I doJw/~actually. Amy? 2030?
M Yes, most of the men I knowJ wc always M That's true. But we were at university a S Well, first of all, I think our planet will
have to have the remote. long time ago. be very crowded. The world population is
increasing by nearly 10,000 people every
T Oh, I don't knowJw/~about that. I spend B Yeah, about fifty years ago, wasn't it?
most of my time looking forJ r/)t! M Not quite that long. And anyway, there hour, or about 220,000 people every day!
This means that in 2030 there'll be about
M Yes, that's true. OK, on to the next are a lot more people at university now.
8.2 billion people living on this planet.
question. Do youJ w/_,ever have The government can't afford to pay for
dinnerJ r/)n front of the TV? everyone. I That's incredible.
S Yes, it is. Especially when you think that
T If I'm on myJj!~own, then yes, of course I J Maybe you're right. But I think they
do. Doesn't everyone? should pay for people who can't afford to in 1930, the world population was only
M Hmm, you're not doing very well, are go to university. about 2 billion.
you? Question 7. Do youJw/~often C What about you, Ben? Do you think I Where will all these people live?
download TV programmes or watch students should pay? S We think that about 60% of people will
live in Africa and Asia, and in 2030 India
them online? B No, definitely not. The government can
T Well, I don't download programmes always find ways to pay for wars or to will have a bigger population than China.
veryJj/~often, but I watch a lot of help the banks, so why can't they afford I Really?
programmes online. You know, when I'm to pay for our education system? S Yes, and cities will be a lot bigger. We
away from home orJ r/)n a hotel. A Exactly. might have 100 cities with populations of
M So that's a yes. OK, last one. Have C So you're saying that universities are only over 20 million.
youJ wc ever missed something important for rich people these days. I And of course all these people will need
food, water, energy and a place to live.
because you wanted to watch TV? B Um, yes. I think so. Rich parents will
S Yes, absolutely. And that's the problem.
T Yes. Once. A few years agoJ w/) didn't always send their kids to university. But
go tOJw/~a friend's wedding because I most young people don't want to be It won't be easy to produce food for
wanted to watch a football match. thousands of pounds in debt at the end of everybody. And as I'm sure you know,
global warming is already changing our
M Tim!! their course.
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T But it was the World Cup Final! C What do you think, Amy? Do you agree climate. And by 2030, some countries
M Right. And that's mor~.fr!)mportant with that? won't have enough water for people to
drink.
than a wedding, is it? A Yes, definitely. Most of my friends from
T Oh. DOJw!~I really have tOJw/~answer school haven't gone to university because I Oh, it sounds a very depressing picture.
Is it too late to do anything about it?
their families can't afford it.
that? So, how did I do? M Well, they can always get student loans. s No, not at all. There are a lot of things we
M Well, you get one point forJr/~each tick,
-47 And they don't have to start paying any of can do, but we have to do them quickly.
so that's ... er ... let's see ...
Firstly, we need to use less oil and gas,
the money back until they leave university
the good news is that we're producing
exciting, excited I relaxing, relaxed I tiring, and get a good job. So maybe you should because this causes global warming. But
get a student loan, Amy.
tired I boring, bored I interesting, interested I A No, I don't think so. I don't want to finish more and more green energy, and this will
surprising, surprised I frightening, frightened I university and find that I'm £40,000 in be very important in 2030.
I What else can we do?
annoying, annoyed I worrying, worried debt. I'd rather carry on working at the
s Well, we also need to protect the
restaurant.
'1'·'i•>4 -48 B Yeah, I can understand that. I started rainforests, because they help to stop
JACKIE Mmm, that was lovely. work at 16 and I've done OK. You don't climate change.
I OK.
AMY Yes, that was really delicious. need to be a graduate to get a good job.
S And of course the other thing people
Thanks, Carol. J That's true. I didn't go to university
CAROL I'm glad you enjoyed it, but I didn't either. But then, I did fail most of my can do is not have so many children. It's
the enormous increase in population
do it all. Matt helped too. exams at school ...
that's causing the problem. But whatever
MATT Well, I only did the vegetables. C OK - so, who wants some dessert? ...
C And he's going to do all the washing-up. &s1 happens, life in 2030 will be very
M Oh, am I? That's news to me! different for billions of people.
Dr Scott, thank you for joining us today ...
I
BEN So, Amy, I hear you want to go to / re/ plan I actor I chat -3
university next year. /er/ plane I date I game
A Well, I'm not sure I do now. The fees /1/ bit I slim I written
ANSWERS 2 They'll 3 We 4 I'll 5 won't
are really high and I can't afford it. And /ar/ bite I realise I write
6 want to
anyway, I don't think I should have to / o/ hot I shot I stop -4
pay. I think university should be free for /<Ju/ bone I smoke I wrote
everybody.
1 In 2030 ... well, I'll probably be married.
B Hmm. Well, that's one way of looking at
And I want to have children, but I only
it. What do you think, Jackie? flat I postcode I swim I exercise I cost I
J I agree with Amy. Schools are free, decide I decision I place I phone want girls. I don't like boys very much,
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