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           Vesak day celebration at MABA in 2025.             One-day retreat on 26th Oct 2024.


           Chinese medicine and acupuncture moxibustion       You began practicing martial arts and qigong at
           treatment from him. After learning about my        a very young age. How has your martial training
           background over lunch, he recommended that I go to   influenced your approach to meditation, discipline,
           The Buddhist Triple Wisdom Hall (三慧講堂) in Penang   and mindfulness?
           to study under Ven. Zhu Mo (竺摩長老), who later
           agreed to ordain me.                               I began learning martial arts and qigong from my
                                                              grandfather when I was five years old. Later, around
           Can you share a memory or experience from          1986, I also trained in Taijiquan at Georgetown Chin
           your early training in Thailand that had a lasting   Woo Wushu Athletic of Penang. Chinese martial arts
           impact on your spiritual path?                     emphasize concentration and unifying body and mind.
                                                              We are required to remain alert and responsive while
           There are three types of enlightenment: namely     in motion. You must stay focused and act with precision
           Arahant, Pacceka Buddha and Sammā Sambuddha.       in every moment. That’s why we use bodily movement
           People often view the Pacceka Buddha negatively    as a way to develop mindfulness and concentration. The
           because they do not preach. However, we must       core of qigong is about sending oxygen efficiently to all
           understand that certain stages of practice require   cells, especially the brain. When the brain lacks energy,
           solitude. We need to focus and practice diligently, by   we become more vulnerable to the five hindrances.
           ourselves, to work towards inner realization, because   Even experienced meditators encounter sleepiness and
           cultivating wholesome habits is very challenging.  slothfulness, which turn down the mind during stillness
                                                              meditation. Greed, anger, and doubt not only obstruct
           My preceptor (Phrakhru Chonlakhetpipat of Wat      meditation, but also interfere with daily life.
           Chonlachaloemkhet Sungaikolok Narathiwa 96120
           Thailand) who ordained me in Thailand knew that I   I teach meditation slightly differently because of my
           wanted to travel and continue learning, so he wrote me   background and experience in Chinese martial arts.
           a recommendation letter and sent me to his Dharma   I incorporate exercises such as the five abdominal
           friend, my meditation teacher Ajahn Chiaranadhamo.   breathing methods (五式吐納) to help circulate oxygen
           This teacher was very strict in his practice and had   throughout the body. The most important thing in
           sharp mindfulness. From him, I learnt about the Four   meditation is not to let the body fall into an oxygen-
           Foundations of Mindfulness (Satipaṭṭhāna), especially   deprived state. So, it’s not just about static sitting, but
           mindfulness of the body. These are engineered skills   also practicing mindfulness while moving. In fact, I see
           rather than theoretical concepts. It took me over 20   many similarities between Chinese martial arts and
           years to practice and refine, before I felt ready to teach   Indian yoga.
           it publicly, only about 7-8 years ago. I am very grateful
           that I have learnt about this skill of mindfulness of the   What challenges did you face while planting
           body. (Ven. Ji Ru recently taught this technique at Hoeh   Dharma seeds in the US?
           Beng temple in March 2025)
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