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implications and ramifications of   in  2012  set targets and we are   telling countries that you owe it
        the positions they are adopting.   trying to achieve them. We give     to your population to grow, but
                                           advice to national governments on   at another level we should say to
        We are dealing with the African    what it takes and how to adjust to   the developed economies that, as
        countries as a regional group de-  post-LDC status. This process has   an instrument of solidarity, you
        veloping a platform of transpa-    helped Vanuatu and Angola. We       should allow for these countries to
        rency and sustainability on natural   want to work with others to expand   graduate without erosion of market
        resource use. Since 2009 UNCTAD    the process. How to expand on       access.
        developed what is called the Sustai-  the Human Growth Index? How
        nable Natural Resources Exchange   to create competitiveness and not   Q: How do you see the eco-
        Initiative. Countries become trans-  be dependent on the unlimited     nomic outlook for African
        parent in all their declarations of   privileged market access of being   countries over the next few
        audited natural resources, and     an LDC? It is a question of getting   years?
        the platform clears the negotiated   them out of the complaisance of
        contracts they have with multi-    wearing the LDC status as a badge   For a number of reasons, I am
        laterals before going into produc-  of honour.                         not as optimistic as most people.
        tion. This is important as bench-                                      Firstly, if you look at the boom in
        marking and good governance of      Q: Wearing the LDC as a badge      Africa, there have been two main
        natural resources.                  of honour -- is it not rather a    engines. One is a steady and rela-
                                           heavy burden to carry?              tively high international price on
        The third thing is that we are                                         commodities, substantially fuelled
        encouraging countries to have a     When the category LDCs was crea-   by consumption in China and other
        structural transformation tax. This   ted in the early 19705 it was expec-  parts of Asia. If you look at African
        is taken from natural resources     ted that countries
        revenue and committed to invest-   would graduate
        ment in education or health care.   to become "emer-
        The intention is to avoid typical   ging" economies.
        illnesses like those, for instance,   Today, forty years
        in Equatorial Guinea. This country   later, you have
        has a GDP of US$16,000   per capi-  more LDCs than
        ta, but its infant mortality rate is   ever before! Our
        comparable to Burundi which has a   feeling is that,
        GDP of  US$280.   Thus, prioritizing   unless there is a
        investments in human resources      commitment to
        and social indicators of growth     stop being an LCD,
        influences the sustainable use of   it becomes a trap.
        natural resources.                  Developed econo-
                                            mies allow great-
        We are also supporting an initia-   er access to their
        tive establishing a minerals obser-  markets for LDCs.
        vatory for Africa, examining natu-  Countries fear gra-
        ral resources, best practices, abuse   duating because it will reduce their   countries as great performers, they
        of workers' rights within countries,   market access. The diplomacy has   have been dependent on commodity
        and also the unsustainable trans-   to go both ways; industrial markets   prices that will decline over the
        formation price that has been       have to accept market access for   next decade.
        exposed where African natural       countries that are making an effort
        resources lose billions of US dollars   to grow. They should not punish   Secondly, if you look at African
        every year by being transferred to   people who wish escape the LDC    growth over the past few years,
        low tax territories -- not excluding   status. You should encourage them   economies have been growing at  7
        Geneva! We want to see how we       by sustaining acceptable market    to even 10%, but employment crea-
        can create a stronger voice for deal-  access, even if they graduate.   tion has constantly been below 3%.
        ing with this.                                                         If employment creation remains
                                            As an LDC, you can export any-     below population growth, it means
        There is another thing we are plan-  thing into the European Union     that you are planting the seeds of
         ning to do in support of African   apart from drugs and armaments.    future distress.
         LDCs in their declared commit-     But the moment you stop being an
         ment -- at least 50% of them should   LDC customs duties are applied.   Thirdly, there has been an inade-
         graduate from LDC status by        Thus, it encourages countries to   quate organic relationship between
         2020. The Declaration of Istanbul   remain poor. At one level, we are   growth by extraction of natural


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