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Y: Say a little bit about the bosses, what kind of people are
they?

Serkan Gonul: I would have given the same answer about the
son if you asked the question three and a half years ago. I thought
in a scientific fashion three and a half years ago and I would not

have put the father next to the son. The son was quite showy and
not normal, I thought. But the father was not like him in my view.
He was even a little bit compassionate. He came downstairs and
listened to problems. But if you went upstairs in the last two
months, it was apparent that the father too was talking rubbish.
Three and a half years, I did not see anything bad from him. But
I was saying of the son, what sort of human being is this? But you
know, the conditions of life… Who knows what plans they made,
where they got support, who was giving them ideas? For a human

being to sink, their honour and self-respect must sink too. When
they start thinking, “I must save myself,” what a disgrace it is. If
only he had sat in a corner, this man, as a 67-year-old firm went
under but sat there like a man, we might have said. Now what is
his life in a basement or in a summer house? Money is not every-
thing. But as we saw they sold all their honour for a piece of paper.
Because of a piece of paper to divorce your wife of 40 or 50 years?

The father swears at the son for the same money…

Y: Now you pitched a tent, you occupied the factory, later you
went over to production. You really created a first in the history
of the working class in Turkey. How did you go over to production,
how did you repair machines that were scrap iron and what sort
of difficulties did you encounter?

Serkan Gonul: Now we have word that there are no grounds

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