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10                   February 2017.                                  interview                                                 www.thewordmedia.org.uk



                                                                           n Monday night MPs vot-
                                                                           ed by 294 votes to 276 to
         Nothing Wrong                                             Oto  accept  3,000  unac-
                                                                           reject  a  plan  for  Britain
                                                                    companied  Syrian  child  refugees
         With Clive                                                 have ended up in mainland europe
                                                                    without a parent or guardian.
                                                                       the amendment had been pro-
                                                                    posed by Labour’s Lord Dubs, who
                                                                    himself arrived in Britain as a child
                                                                    refugee  fleeing  the  Holocaust  in
                                                                    the 1930s.
                                                                       Here are the MPs who voted to
                                                                    turn away the 3,000 refugees who
                                                                    had travelled to europe:
                                                                            Adams, nigel
                                                                            Afriyie, Adam
                                                                            Aldous, Peter
                                                                             Allan, Lucy
                                                                           Amess, Sir David
                                                                            Andrew, Stuart
                                                                           Ansell, Caroline
                                                                            Argar, edward
                                                                            Atkins, victoria
                                                                          Bacon, Mr richard
                                                                            Baker, Mr Steve
                                                                           Baldwin, Harriett    child-refugees
                                                                           Barclay, Stephen
                                                                            Baron, Mr John
                                                                            Barwell, Gavin
           i met young Clive Lewis this   we  chatted  with  him  about      Bebb, Guto
        summer  when  he  was  raising   the bally-hoo-har in the Shadow   Bellingham, Sir Henry
        money  for  the  Party  by  speak-  Cabinet,  where  people  resigned   Benyon, richard
        ing  in  various  places  round  the   as a kind of drip-drip-drip to un-  Beresford, Sir Paul
        country, writes ian Charles.  dermine Labour. would they all         Berry, Jake
                                                                             Berry, James
           My buddy Charlie Abrahams,   be back?                            Blunt, Crispin the MPs who voted to turn away
        serious  journalist  and  a  very   Clive  thought  that  they    Bingham, Andrew
        good  speechwriter,  persuaded   would, and that he’d be returned
        me that we ought to try to meet   to the back benches; he told me   Bone, Mr Peter
        up with other members as much   who he knew had been ‘sniffing     Borwick, victoria          Duncan Smith, rh Mr iain         Harrington, richard
        as  possible  less  the  Party  die  of   around’  wanting  jobs  back,  and   Bottomley, Sir Peter  Dunne, Mr Philip            Harris, rebecca
        neglect while neC closed down   confessed to being both resigned    Bradley, Karen                  elliott, tom                  Hart, Simon
        everything  except  campaigning   and looking forward to learning   Brady, Mr Graham               ellis, Michael             Haselhurst, rh Sir Alan
        meetings,  so  we  toddled  off  to   how  to  be  a  constituency  MP.   Brazier, Mr Julian       ellison, Jane                Heald, Sir Oliver
        a  wMC  in  woodhouse  to  hear   He seemed to be telling us he’d    Brine, Steve                ellwood, Mr tobias             Heappey, James
        Clive, eat food prepared by some   had  his  education  interrupted   Brokenshire, rh James       elphicke, Charlie            Heaton-Harris, Chris
        food rescuers, and talk about La-  by  Shadow  Cabinet  work,  even   Bruce, Fiona                eustice, George              Heaton-Jones, Peter
        bour. the food was delicious.  though it had been a marvellous     Buckland, robert               evans, Graham                Henderson, Gordon
           Charlie  and  i  managed  to   experience.  that’s  my  second    Burns, Conor                 evans, Mr nigel               Herbert, rh nick
        speak with Clive before the main   reason for believing he’s not after   Burns, rh Sir Simon   evennett, rh Mr David             Hinds, Damian
        event (him) and ask advice about   Jeremy’s job.                  Burrowes, Mr David             Fabricant, Michael           Hollobone, Mr Philip
        a  friend who’d been kicked out   thirdly, his speech to us was     Burt, rh Alistair            Fallon, rh Michael            Holloway, Mr Adam
        of  Labour  for  reposting  an  idea   very philosophical, almost theo-  Campbell, Mr Gregory    Fernandes, Suella               Hopkins, Kris
        from  the  Greens,  whom  i  think   retical. it was lovely, but it wasn’t   Carmichael, neil      Field, rh Mark              Howarth, Sir Gerald
        would do very well to get inside   a hustings or a statement of polit-  Carswell, Mr Douglas       Foster, Kevin                  Howell, John
        our  party  rather  than  flapping   ical position. it didn’t sound like   Cartlidge, James       Fox, rh Dr Liam                 Howlett, Ben
        about outside of it.         a guy who wants to lead a party.      Cash, Sir william               Frazer, Lucy                 Huddleston, nigel
           Clive’s view seems to be that   And  that’s  my  third  reason  for   Caulfield, Maria        Freeman, George               Hunt, rh Mr Jeremy
        we need to be less arrogant (OK   disbelieving the Fake news com-    Chalk, Alex                    Freer, Mike                  Hurd, Mr nick
        touché) and recognise that there   ing out of, for example, the BBC,   Chishti, rehman             Gale, Sir roger             Jackson, Mr Stewart
        is wisdom elsewhere too. i said to   the Sunday Murdoch, or the Dai-  Chope, Mr Christopher    Garnier, rh Sir edward            Javid, rh Sajid
        him that unless we had a decent   ly Fail about a coup surrounding   Churchill, Jo                 Garnier, Mark              Jayawardena, Mr ranil
        voting system then co-operation   either Clive or tom watson.       Clark, rh Greg                Gauke, Mr David              Jenkin, Mr Bernard
        would never work, and with pro-  i’m sorry for old tom; i’m sure   Clarke, rh Mr Kenneth           Ghani, nusrat                Jenkyns, Andrea
        portional  representation  we’d   he  was  good  at  coups  when  he   Cleverly, James             Gibb, Mr nick                 Jenrick, robert
        end  up  in  coalitions  where  the   was dealing with a man who had   Clifton-Brown, Geoffrey  Gillan, rh Mrs Cheryl            Johnson, Boris
        Centre,  and  by  this  i  mean  the   no  groundswell  of  national  or   Coffey, Dr thérèse       Glen, John                  Johnson, Gareth
        Liberal  Democratic  Party  (sure-  Party support such as t*ny Bl**r   Collins, Damian          Goodwill, Mr robert             Johnson, Joseph
        ly  a  triple  misnomer  that  one)   (are we allowed to use his name   Colvile, Oliver           Gove, rh Michael               Jones, Andrew
        would sit permanently choosing   yet iain, or is it still a swear?)  Costa, Alberto               Graham, richard              Jones, rh Mr David
        who to help become the Govern-  But  Corbyn  is  a  different      Crabb, rh Stephen              Grant, Mrs Helen              Jones, Mr Marcus
        ment!                        phenomenon.  He  has  support          Davies, Byron                Grayling, rh Chris            Kawczynski, Daniel
           Mu point is that there can be   from an area that none of them    Davies, Glyn                  Green, Chris                 Kennedy, Seema
        totalitarianism  of  the  Centre,   can  touch,  and  he  listens.  Clive   Davies, Mims         Green, rh Damian               Kinahan, Danny
        and  then  whoever  you  were  to   listens too. the people he wants   Davies, Philip          Grieve, rh Mr Dominic              Kirby, Simon
        vote for, the Government would   to  listen  to  at  the  moment  are   Dinenage, Caroline       Griffiths, Andrew             Knight, rh Sir Greg
        get  in!  Clive  doesn’t  agree  with   his constituents; he wants to be   Djanogly, Mr Jonathan   Gummer, Ben                   Knight, Julian
        me,  he’s  far  more  idealistic  and   a  small-town  MP  before  he  be-  Donelan, Michelle     Gyimah, Mr Sam                Kwarteng, Kwasi
        possibly more reasonable. i think   comes  a  national  figure,  and  i   Double, Steve          Halfon, rh robert              Lancaster, Mark
        he sees the good in people, and   recognise  his  sentiments.  i  can   Dowden, Oliver              Hall, Luke                  Latham, Pauline
        he’s  clearly  no  cynic.  that’s  the   find  nothing  suspicious  or  ma-  Doyle-Price, Jackie  Hammond, Stephen              Leadsom, Andrea
        first reason i don’t think he’s after   leficent about this man. Be reas-  Drax, richard        Hancock, rh Matthew              Lee, Dr Phillip
        Corbyn’s job.                sured.                              Drummond, Mrs Flick              Hands, rh Greg                 Lefroy, Jeremy
                                                                           Duddridge, James              Harper, rh Mr Mark             Leigh, Sir edward
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