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폴란드 | Poland 'East to East' series 2001
pher, he is a good photographer who took good photos on war photos is the same as when a child looks at the world around him
zones but also elswhere. To create such compartments means that /her, does not understand but feels everything. Growing up we are
when you want to buy one of my books you should go to a travel taught to undersatnd without feeling.
devices store and you would find it among walking sticks, camping You have been taking various photographs of many other
tents, travel guides, and mosquito reppelents. parts of the world. What message do you want you would
I heard you also write in addition to taking photographs want to convey in the picture?
in your work trip. How does "writing" influence your pho- Art does not convey a message. Politics convey messages. Art serv-
tography? ing politics to convey a message is called propaganda. Art stops
Both are made of words. For the moment I have been able to put where propaganda begins. Art questions the world.
together a photographic language that is both senstive and sensi- What would be your future work plan and goal?
ble. I spend more time editing my photos and writing than photo- I started two years ago a new long term project on Japan. The title
graphing. is ‘Divagation – on the steps of Basho’. Having Basho’s diaries in
There are some photographs you took from your work trip mind (more than his poems) written in the 17th century is the
by trans-siberian train. It was noticeable that the sceneries best pretext not to illustrate the reality I encounter but to trans-
inside and those of outside of the train, taken from the late it. Parallely I keep on photographing teenagers in jails. I started
inside, were different from each other by other countries. in 1995 in Paris where is the biggest jail in Europe. Each time i
It was especially impressive with the pictures where the spend three weeks in the jail and organize a workshop with a group
snow was piled up and the wide scenery outside the train. of teenagers during the whole time of my project and we photo-
What was your intention for taking these photographs? graph their place of confinement together. We spend a lot of time
I have no intention when I make a photo. When I am fascinated, looking at their pictures and putting words on them. At the end
struck, flabbergasted I press on the button. Much before I under- there is an exhibition of the teenagers’ photos inside and outside
stand or realize what is happening. The state I am in when I make the jail. I have kept on with same dynamic in different countries in
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