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Workplace                                                    2020 – ironically, just as we started going into


                                                                                     lockdown,’ says Sir Cary.
        THE KNOWLEDGE  INTERVIEW
                                                                                       ‘The evidence was that people wanted to
                        wellbeing –                                                  work more flexibly but were frightened to

                                                                                     because it might indicate to their employer
                                                                                     that they were less committed. But if they were

                           today and                                                 allowed to work flexible hours and we could
                                                                                     measure it, the evidence globally showed they
                                                                                     tended to be more productive and much more
                                                                                     job satisfied, with fewer sickness days.’

                          tomorrow                                                   Changing landscape
                                                                                     Of course, the COVID-19 pandemic changed
                                                                                     the workplace landscape and showed that
                                                                                     remote working really was a viable and
                        We speak to Sir Cary Cooper about how                        productive option for many people. However,
                                                                                     with it have come other challenges. 
                       OSH professionals can positively infl uence
                                                                                       ‘I was really disturbed during the
                       wellbeing in the post-pandemic workplace.                     pandemic when authorities said we had to
                                           post-pandemic workplace.
                                                                                     pandemic when authorities said we had to
                                                                                     keep our social distance. They should have
                                                                                     keep our social distance. They should have
                                                                                     said physical distance, not social distance,
                                                                                     said physical distance, not social distance,
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                                        WORDS MATT LAMY Y                            because social connectedness is a really
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                                                                                     because social connectedness is a really
                                                                                     psychologically important part of why we
                                                                                     psychologically important part of why we
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                                             er
                         t the age of 83, Sir Cary Cooper
                                            op
                  A      shows no sign of slowing down.
                                           down.
                         He’s currently 50th
                         anniversary professor of
               organisational psychology and health at the
                                           t the
               Alliance Manchester Business School,
                                           air of
               president of the Institute of Welfare, chair of
               the National Forum for Health and
               Wellbeing at Work, and immediate past
               president of the CIPD. He is the author or
                                           or
                                           han
               editor of an ever-growing list of more than
               250 books. He was awarded a CBE by the late
                                           e late
                                           onal
               Queen for his contributions to occupational
               health (OH), and then received a knighthood
                                           hood
                                           es. He
               for his contribution to the social sciences. He
               is an honorary fellow of IOSH.
                 For all his talents, though, Sir Cary would
                                           ould
               never claim to be a prophet. However,
               his recent publishing history might
               suggest otherwise.
                                           ected
                 ‘Before the pandemic occurred, I collected

                                           ing

               the scientific evidence for flexible working
                                           lars
               in an edited book of research from scholars
                                           ning
               all over the world [Flexible Work: Designing
               Our Healthier Future Lives, co-edited with
                                           ith
                                           early
               Sarah Norgate]. That was published in early
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