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the pilgrimage to Mecca seven times. The son has also gone on
the Umrah (Translator’s note: a Muslim pilgrimage) and dressed
in a green robe. He came here and distributed dates. To put it
more exactly, we saw that they were deceivers and everything is
quite clear about them now. They deceived themselves, they de-
ceived the environment around them… I don’t know, they did not

deceive us. Out of 90 to 94 workers, there were 12 they could not
deceive. But they deceived the other friends or they are using us,
I don’t know. They said to other friends that their lawyers said
that if they got money and one gave money everyone would have
to give money. This was the road they went down, we went down
this road. Umit Somuncu, Umut Somuncu, Gaye Somuncu who
is head of communications at Calik Holding. She is the daughter

and she has a share here.

Y: How did you repair the machines and what difficulties did
you experience?

Yasar Gulay: We bought a motor for the machine with the
sweaters we sold. We called a skilled worker but it was difficult for
him to come here. A skilled worker came and said the cheapest
would be 500 but more likely 1,000. The machine we repaired was
worth three billion. We got 30 million from the sweaters we sold.
Nine or ten billion was spent. That was an expense. People come

and eat, drink. Up to the present, the nearest trade union to us,
DISK, has never visited. In what way are you on the side of the
workers, how is this possible? There is resistance here and you have
to support it. But we are determined. These machines will go from
here and we will set up a factory. And we will also get the other
machines. Nobody can prevent this, whatever price is paid… If we

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